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Libertarian Presidential Bob Barr Candidate Will File Lawsuit Against Oklah
2008-07-15 20:11:00
Libertarian Presidential Candidate Bob Barr Will File Lawsuit Against Oklahomahttp://www.ksbitv.com/h-ome/25481589.html A 2008 presidential hopeful speaks out against Oklahoma's election policies.  The Libertarian Party's Presidential nominee, Bob Barr, will file a lawsuit to overturn the state's ballot access requirement that would put his name on the November ballot.  Oklahoma requires a candidate to get about 40,000 signatures to be added to the ballot.  Barr's campaign says they are on track in every other state because they require less than 10,000 names.  Barr says it's unconstitutional. "We believe that is unfair, we believe that the citizens of Oklahoma ought to have the same rights in terms of access to voting for the office of President and Vice President as the other states and the District of Columbia," Libertarian Candidate for President, Bob Barr explained. Barr turned in close to 10,000 petition signatures, and will be running for the libe...
Green Party Presidential Candidate Forum
2008-07-12 05:38:00
The Green Party Presidential Candidate Forum was held tonight in at the Green Party US Annual Meeting/Convention at the Palmer House in Chicago. It was moderated by former Green Party of Illinois candidate for governor, Rich Whitney. The large ballroom was packed with Greens, and interest shown by the large amount of media present. All ...
Green Party Presidential Candidate Forum
2008-07-12 05:31:00
The Green Party Presidential Candidate Forum was held tonight in at the Green Party US Annual Meeting/Convention at the Palmer House in Chicago. It was moderated by former Green Party of Illinois candidate for governor, Rich Whitney. The large ballroom was packed with Greens, and interest shown by the large amount of media present. All ...
Kevin Beckner candidate for District 6 County Commission
2008-06-23 21:13:00
From Susan Long:Meet and Greet Kevin Beckner candidate for District 6 County Commission.Date: Sunday July 29thTime: 1-3 PMPlace: Susan Long?s ? 921 E. Broad StreetEveryone?s welcome! Come meet a rational replacement for Brian BlairRSVP 813-857-4830 or swlong29@verizon.net
Michael Munger Libertarian candidate for Governor in North Carolina in the
2008-06-17 09:34:00
Here is a article on our Governor candidate in North Carolina. Michael Munger might be the best candidate the Libertarian party has running anywhere in the country.N.C. Libertarian runs for serious attention By Mark BinkerStaff Writer Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2008 3:00 am Should Munger be included in the debates? (Web) RALEIGH — Libertarian candidate for governor Michael Munger's name will be on the ballot alongside Democrat Bev Perdue and Republican Pat McCrory. So, the Duke political science professor reasons he should be alongside them at upcoming debates. But at least one upcoming debate will exclude him while other hosts are having to be reminded that North Carolina officially has three parties. "If I'm invited to the debate, and I do a bad job, voters are going to say 'I'm not interested,'" Munger said. "If I do a good job, if I raise some ideas, some issues that other people aren't talking about, I can make the political system more competitive, more transparent.......
Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate finishes ballot access drive
2008-06-11 09:24:00
Redpath says Virginians do not need "six more years of the same two parties" Libertarian Party National Chairman and candidate for U.S. Senate William Redpath will deliver more than 16,000 signatures to the Virginia State Board of Elections on Tuesday in Richmond, concluding more than two months of petition gathering to qualify for ballot access as a Libertarian in the state of Virginia. Redpath, of Leesburg, will face Republican Jim Gilmore and Democrat Mark Warner for the seat currently held by five-term Republican Senator John Warner. "This will be an open seat, and one that is highly contested," says Redpath, who is a Vice President at BIA Financial Network, Inc. "My entry into the race will bring more competition by creating an alternative to the two establishment candidates.  Virginians deserve to get the best representation as possible in Washington, and we do this by inviting more choices into the selection process." Redpath will be delivering these petition signatur...
And Will Obama Save Us From Our Sins?: Adoration Of Candidate Borders On Th
2008-06-11 00:00:00
-By Frederick Meekins As the United States edges ever closer to tyranny with freedom dieing a little more each year with the passage of new laws, the handing down of judicial rulings, and the promulgation of executive orders, it is assumed by increasing numbers that it is the role of government to provide for all of ...
Opera 9.5 Release Candidate Released
2008-06-10 23:33:00
Opera has announced that they will soon be releasing the final version of Opera 9.5. Yesterday, they released the release candidate (RC) version of Opera 9.5, which follows after the snapshot release which took place a few days ago. Just a reminder to all Opera fans, a new default skin was added in the snapshot ...
Huckabee Saves Chocking NC Candidate With Heimlich Maneuver
2008-06-08 23:01:00
Former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee saved the day at the North Carolina Republican Party Convention. Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, Robert Pittenger, suddenly began choking after laughing during a meal. Mike Huckabee immediately went over to Pittenger and began performing the Heimlich Maneuver on him. Pittenger said the food immediately dislodged thanks to Huckabee. ...
Kent Mesplay, US Presidential Candidate on Sustainability
2008-06-07 00:49:00
This fine video is one of a series which will be pulled together into a movie about being Green. Can't wait!
Rascal Flatts Writes A Song for Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton
2008-06-06 21:32:00
OK, it’s been a long and stressful week, so I needed a post to cheer me up - and I just heard Rascal Flatt’s song “Every Day” on the radio.  Every time I hear the beginning of that song, it reminds me of Hillary Clinton, so, I’m deciding to make a post about it.  Supposedly, Clinton ...
Candidate McCain: A Risky Choice
2008-06-05 15:15:00
by Rodrigue Tremblay "I believe that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators." Sen. John McCain, ( March 20, 2003) "As you know, there are al Qaeda operatives that are taken back into Iran, given training as leaders, and they're moving back into Iraq." Sen. John McCain, 2008 presumptive Republican presidential nominee, (In Amman, Jordan, March 18, 2008) "Iran obviously is on the path toward acquiring nuclear weapons." ..."At the end of the day we cannot allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon." Sen. John McCain "Anyone who worries about how long we [the United States]'re in Iraq does not understand the military." Sen. John McCain John McCain will make [Dick] Cheney look like Gandhi." Pat Buchanan, journalist and political figure "McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when they [the missiles] get to the gro...
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2008-06-05 13:38:00
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Second Firefox 3 Release Candidate now available for download
2008-06-05 08:48:00
The second Firefox 3 Release Candidate is now available for download. Ongoing planning for Firefox 3 can be followed at the Firefox 3 Planning Center, as well as in mozilla.dev.planning and on irc.mozilla.org in #granparadiso. Testers can download the second Firefox 3 Release Candidate builds for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux in over 45 different ...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 2 Available Now
2008-06-05 06:09:00
Mozilla released Firefox 3 RC2 yesterday, and since they were right on schedule, we might still get to see the final Firefox 3 being released by the end of this month. Mozilla FTP already had a file named Firefox 3 RC2, but who knows they might make some last minute changes and tweaks, so it’s ...
Clinton Advisor: Clinton to End Campaign on Friday. Didn?t We Hear This Be
2008-06-05 04:32:00
Alright, so, AGAIN, the media (this time the New York Times, instead of the Associated Press) is reporting that a Clinton aide, specifically Howard Wolfson, a chief strategist, told them that she would be suspending her campaign.  Wolfson told the Times that she will announce on Friday that she is done and will endorse Obama. The ...
Obama: Clinton and I will be ?having a conversation in the coming weeks?
2008-06-04 23:27:00
Today, after doing “a victory lap through the Senate” (as worded by a Politico article), Obama met with reporters outside of the Capitol.  Here’s what he  told reporters, regarding Clinton’s non-concession- speech last night: “I thought Senator Clinton, after a long-fought campaign, was understandably focused on her supporters. … I just spoke to her today, and we are going ...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 2 Now Available [Early Adopter Featured Downloa
2008-06-04 22:18:00
All platforms: The Mozilla developers want to get the next Firefox milestone just right, so they’ve issued another release candidate for your testing pleasure. Firefox 3 RC2 includes bug fixes from RC1. If you haven’t dipped your toes into the Firefox 3 pool, the RC2 water is warm—it’s the most stable testing build they’re likely ...
Obama 'favourite global candidate'
2008-06-04 15:52:00
Obama 'favourite global candidate'
HISTORY HAS BEEN MADE!!! OBAMA IS THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE
2008-06-04 15:17:00
Barack Obama has done what many just a year ago thought was impossible. He took on the most powerful family in Democratic politics and won.On Tuesday, Obama became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, marking the first time an African-American will head the ticket of a major political party.The first-term senator captured the Democratic nomination by beating out Sen. Hillary Clinton, who was hoping to become the first female nominee.The two Democratic candidates fought a protracted and, at times, bitter battle that carried them through every state and brought nearly 35 million of their supporters to the polls.When Obama declared his candidacy in February 2007, he faced an uphill battle. Clinton, a former first lady and New York senator, was the favored candidate.Eleven months later, Obama proved the cynics wrong. He won Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses and, in what he called a "defining moment in history," he told his supporters "change is coming."BARACK THE VOTE!!!!...
Barack Obama Will Be The Democrat Candidate, Hillary Clinton, Both Made His
2008-06-04 13:18:00
Well it looks like Barack Obama will be the democrat candidate. I like both Hillary Clinton and him very much. Now if they would come together on the same ticket it would be so great. Either way they both have earned my respect and both made history. Made it possible for future generations about being president. I have watched this since the beginning. This is the election that I have learned the most from this process. It is one the most exciting presidential races in my lifetime so far. I will never forget this election that is for sure because of it being so historic.
Hillary Clinton: ?I will be making no decisions tonight? on Quitting the Ra
2008-06-04 06:46:00
So, I’ve already analyzed Obama’s speech which was given shortly after Clinton’s following speech.  She had been expected to suspend her campaign and acknowledge that Obama had reached the “magic number,” but not actually concede, but she didn’t even do that.  She just said, “I’ll talk it over and decide later” essentially.  Here’s the speech: Thank you. Thank you so much. ...
Barack Obama: ?I will be the Democratic nominee?
2008-06-04 05:33:00
Well, Barack Obama has given a speech, claiming victory as the Democratic nominee.  Well, I’ve got news Barack, it really “isn’t over until the lady in the pants suit says so.”  Why?  Because the lady has a whole host of hit men who have done some pretty good work before (ok, maybe they did work for her ...
Obama Clinches the Nomination; Clinton Open to Being His Running Mate
2008-06-04 02:54:00
This broke earlier today while I was at work, so my apologies for having it up late. Although Obama has not formally come out with the ”magic number,” my tallies, as well as CNN’s and the Associated Press’s do confirm that he should go over that mark tonight, if what Obama is reporting in terms of Superdelegate pledges is ...
Sathya Sai Baba as Nobel Peace Prize Candidate
2008-06-03 13:46:00
Hunger for top international recognition of Sathya Sai Baba thwarted Sathya Sai Baba ill-concealed hope of being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize was backed by Prime Minister Vajpayee?s Indian Government! The chance of this was strongly hinted at by the Sai Baba himself, saying: in his 18 November 2001 Discourse “They are giving the Nobel Prize to ...
Would that we had a presidential candidate who had the guts to say this stu
2008-06-01 18:43:00
In the mail, just now: FW: Axis of Idiots “The Axis of Idiots” Jimmy Carter, you are the father of the Islamic Nazi movement. You threw the Shah under the bus, welcomed the Ayatollah home, and then lacked the spine to confront the terrorists when they took our embassy and our people hostage. You’re the runner-in-chief. Bill Clinton, you played ring around the Lewinsky while the terrorists were at war with us. You got us into a fight with them in Somalia and then you ran from it. Your weak-willed responses to the U.S.S. Cole and the First Trade Center Bombing and Our Embassy Bombings emboldened the killers. Each time you failed to respond adequately, they grew bolder, until 9/11/2001. John Kerry, dishonesty is your most prominent attribute. You lied about American Soldiers in Vietnam Your military service, like your life, is more fiction than fact. You’ve accused our military of terrorizing women and children in Iraq . You called I...
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Funny adult jokes-Candidate in Legislature
2008-06-01 09:04:00
A husband and wife are campaigning for a friend who is contesting the local elections. They both become so busy that they do not think of anything else but about the elections - so much so that they communicate about everything in political language.One night the husband wants to have sex desperately, but seeing the wife busy doing some work, goes to her and says, "I would like to put my candidate in your legislature. "The wife, not realizing this was meant for something else, without raising her head says, "Our party is not going to accept this."The husband is disappointed but he goes to sleep.After some time the wife realizes what the husband meant, so she wakes him up and tells him, "Darling, now you can put your candidate in my legislature. "The husband replied, "Sorry, I cannot do that. My candidate stood independent and lost his deposit!"
Clinton Calls Rumors of Her Being Obama?s Vice President ?Flatly Untrue?
2008-05-29 23:22:00
Late last week, while apologizing for her comments about Bobby Kennedy, Clinton also addressed rumors that she has been in secret talks with the Obama campaign about her being Obama’s running mate: “It is flatly untrue and it is not anything I’m entertaining.  It is nothing I have planned and it is nothing I am ...
Firefox 3 tendrá al menos un Relase Candidate más
2008-05-28 15:53:00
Parece que antes de tener en nuestras manos el Firefox 3 Final, tendremos un Relase Candidate más (Firefox 3 RC2), y que será lanzado a lo largo del mes de junio, en la que se solucionará varias decenas de fallos encontrados en el Firefox 3 RC1, uno de ellos un fallo que puede hacer ...
Libertarian VP Candidate on small business
2008-05-27 16:26:00
The Libertarian Party chose its ticket for the November elections: Bob Barr and Wayne Root. Although I will be supporting John McCain in the election, I was happy to see the following quote from VP candidate Root at the convention:Root, a colorful media personality with a dynamic and enthusiastic speakingstyle, brings several large voting blocs to the Barr/Root Libertarian ticket. Asa small businessman, I will aim my campaign at 27 million American smallbusiness owners and millions of independent contractors such as real estatebrokers, stockbrokers, insurance brokers and mortgage brokers. They are theeconomic engine of the U.S. economy. Small business now creates a majority ofnon-government jobs. I believe small businessmen and women across America willappreciate the fact that someone who understands their unique issues andconcerns will be part of a Presidential ticket for the first time in modernpolitical history."From The Aftermath: Wayne Root on the Barr/Root ticket for President...
Misinterpreting the Candidate
2008-05-24 10:39:00
It takes a bit of a reach to wilfully misunderstand some unguarded words by Hilary Clinton, but many have done so. This is what she was reported as having said: “My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all ...
Legislator Stabs Spouse, Rival Candidate Says?
2008-05-22 18:49:00
…he won’t criticize her for her ‘personal habits.’ “Andrew Brownson, one of the Republicans challenging Allen, said it would not be appropriate to ask or force her to resign for her ‘personal habits.’ “‘I don’t believe in that,’ said Brownson.” According to the UPI, “Assemblywoman Francis Allen (pictured), R-Las Vegas, is accused of using a steak knife to ...
Libertarian Party Holds Convention This Week to Pick Presidential Candidate
2008-05-22 15:21:00
Bob Barr, Mike Gravel and Wayne Allen Root are just a few of the candidates being voted on this weekend in Denver at the Libertarian National Convention, where the candidate with the majority of the votes will be the presidential candidate for the party: A warrior in the battle to impeach Bill Clinton, a former Democratic senator and a Las Vegas oddsmaker are among those seeking the Libertarian presidential nomination in Denver this weekend. Some say that the party could have an impact in this election, particularly if former U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., wins its nomination. The Libertarian National Convention begins today at the Sheraton Denver Hotel. Almost 1,000 delegates are expected to attend and on Sunday pick a candidate for president from a slate of 14. They will also choose a vice president. {Source: Denver Post} Will any of these candidates make a difference in November: Columnist George Will sees Barr causing trouble for McCain.  “Come November, Barr conceivably coul...
Baseball Notebook: Piazza a Hall of Fame Candidate?
2008-05-20 20:53:00
Now that Mike Piazza has announced his retirement he begins his five year wait to be eligible for Hall of Fame voting. He has a lifetime batting average of .308, a .377 on base percentage and .545 slugging percentage. Most catchers would like to have a .545 slugging percentage just once in their
Osama bin Laden?s dream candidate?
2008-05-19 19:46:00
Note: I am unsure if this article is psyops or counter propaganda.  The author (Shireen K. Burki) seems highly connected with gov’t agenda (see this: http://afghanistan-analyst.org/-Documents/Burki2.doc). ========= Barack Obama ? Muslim apostate? By Shireen K. Burki Stafford, Va. - Osama bin Laden must be chuckling in his safe house. After all, the 2008 campaign could very well give Al ...
Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader Protests Big Oil
2008-05-19 14:13:00
Ralph Nader and his team will be protesting oil industry speculation, manipulation, and conglomeration of our gas prices. You’ll see Mr. Nader and his team May 20, ’08 out at the American Petroleum Institute in Washington, D.C. Why? If you haven’t heard, it is not just Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain running for President. Ralph Nader is too. Nader’s campaign pledge in regard to the oil industry, “ In recent years, the big five oil companies - ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, ConocoPhillips, BP and Shell - have booked record profits - a big chunk of which result from oil industry market manipulation and anti-competitive practices. (For example, oil companies have exploited their market position to intentionally restrict refining capacity by driving smaller, independent refiners out of business.) Nader/Gonzalez would strictly regulate the oil industry - clamping down on speculators and enforcing the antitrust laws. Nader/Gonzalez would also revo...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate now available for download
2008-05-19 13:59:00
The first Firefox 3 Release Candidate is now available for download. This milestone is focused on testing the core functionality provided by many new features and changes to the platform scheduled for Firefox 3. Ongoing planning for Firefox 3 can be followed at the Firefox 3 Planning Center, as well as in mozilla.dev.planning and on ...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 disponible para descargar
2008-05-19 02:16:00
Ya es posible descargar el Release Candidate 1 de Firefox 3, es decir, casi la versión final, a espera de que se reporten los últimos bugs, fallos y se hagan correcciones de última hora para que se publica la versión final del navegador (programado p ... Link: ALT1040 Tags: posible, descargar, Release, Candidate, Firefox, decir,, casi, versión, ...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate now available for download at Bali Web Design B
2008-05-18 19:17:00
This material is taken from Bali Web Design Blog, http://design.ebali.web.id/bali-webdesignseo-blog-1.html. Please note The Firefox 3 Release Candidate is a public preview release intended for developer testing and community feedback. It includes new features as well as dramatic improvements to performance memory usage and speed. We recommend that you read the release notes and known issues before installing this release. The first Firefox 3 Release Candidate is now available for download. This milestone is focused on testing the core functionality provided by many new features and changes to the platform scheduled for Firefox 3. Ongoing planning for Firefox 3 can be followed at the Firefox 3 Planning Center as well as in mozilla.dev.planning and on irc.mozilla.org in granparadiso. New features and changes in this milestone Improvements to the user interface based on user feedback including changes to the look and feel on Windows Vista Windows XP Mac OS X and Linux.Changes and fix...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 Now Available
2008-05-18 18:50:00
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 has been made available for testing purposes. Preview releases are published to collect feedback from Web developers and the testing community before advancing to the next stage in the release process.Firefox 3 is based on the Gecko 1.9 Web rendering platform, which has been under development for the past 33 months. Building on the previous release, Gecko 1.9 has more than 14,000 updates including some major re-architecting to provide improved performance, stability, rendering correctness, and code simplification and sustainability. Firefox 3 has been built on top of this new platform resulting in a more secure, easier to use, more personal product with a lot more under the hood to offer website and Firefox add-on developers.Read MoreThis blog will tell you how to Unlock Jailbreak Activate and Hack your iPhone and iTouch firmware for FREE
Firefox 3 Relase Candidate 1 listo para descargar
2008-05-18 09:02:00
Este es un mes de candidatos (o sea, las versiones candidatas para el lanzamiento definitivo), ya que en junio saldría la versión final del poderoso navegador firefox. Compártelo
Firefox 3 Release Candidate is now Available
2008-05-17 21:08:00
The Firefox 3 release candidate is now available for testing purposes only. The said preview release aims to test out new features and to collect feedback from web developers and to the testing community. Final version for Firefox 3 will be release as soon as they qualify the said software as fully ready to their ... SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Firefox 3 Release Candidate is now Available", url: "http://rhyan.net/2008/05/17/fi-refox-3-release-candidate-is-no-w-available/" });
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 Released
2008-05-17 19:21:00
I was just discussing this yesterday, about the Firefox 3 RC1 given on the Mozilla FTP. And look, here we have the RC1 announced by Mozilla team today. Wondering what’s new? Check out the release notes for this. Many fixes and improvements have been made to improve security, and performance. Including fixes for ...
Mozilla rilascia Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1
2008-05-17 19:12:00
Precisa come sempre, Mozilla rilascia la prima (e forse ultima) Release Candidate del suo famoso browser. La release finale dovrebbe arrivare a breve, probabilmente gli ultimi giorni di Giugno. Mozilla sta infatti ricevendo molti feedback positivi dai migliaia di tester, speriamo che questa nuova versione consenta a Firefox di conquistarsi una fetta di utenza ancora più grande. Fra ...
Mozilla, come preannunciato, rilascia la prima Release Candidate di Firefox
2008-05-17 18:37:00
Tempo fa vi annunciavamo che il Team di Mozilla avrebbe rilasciato a breve (circa la seconda metà di Maggio) la prima Release Candidate dell?ultima versione del suo browser preferito nonché Firefox 3 e quest?oggi, ha ...
Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 Now Available
2008-05-17 16:15:00
Well, in an unceremonious move the Mozilla folks have released the latest incarnation of Firefox. I thought thet might have some fanfare around the launch but, nope. You can download the one for your respective language via the following link. Download page: Firefox 3 rc1 Enjoy.
10 Reasons Your Dog Makes The Best Presidential Candidate
2008-05-16 16:41:00
Read the responses from people as to why they feel their dog makes the best Presidential candidate. 1. My dog wears a shock collar so they would actually listen to the people, well at least the person holding the remote. 2. My dog has no skeletons in his closet (just a few bones) 3. My dog keeps all ...
One Candidate Out: No Patrick Roy Behind Avs' Bench
2008-05-16 15:47:00
According to Adrian Dater, Patrick Roy has decided that he is not actually interested in coaching the Colorado Avalanche next season.  His sons still play for the Remparts and he'd like to see them through their major junior careers: But Roy said he does want to coach in the NHL at some point, probably when his younger son, Frederick, leaves junior hockey. "When Fred is done, it will be different," Roy said. "But this is OK with me for now." Frederick Roy, 17, a center, played five games for the Remparts this past season but is expected to play a larger role next season. Roy's older son, Jonathan, 19, has played goalie for the Remparts the last two seasons. So speculation on that particular subject can finally cease. For what it's worth, at the end of the article Dater casts Kevin Dineen and Todd McLellan as the top two candidates, with Pat Burns and Ron Wilson as more experienced but likely secondary.  Who really knows, though?  Dineen and McLellan have tea...
One Candidate Out: No Patrick Roy Behind Avs' Bench
2008-05-16 14:47:00
According to Adrian Dater, Patrick Roy has decided that he is not actually interested in coaching the Colorado Avalanche next season.  His sons still play for the Remparts and he'd like to see them through their major junior careers: But Roy said he does want to coach in the NHL at some point, probably when his younger son, Frederick, leaves junior hockey."When Fred is done, it will be different," Roy said. "But this is OK with me for now."Frederick Roy, 17, a center, played five games for the Remparts this past season but is expected to play a larger role next season. Roy's older son, Jonathan, 19, has played goalie for the Remparts the last two seasons. So speculation on that particular subject can finally cease.For what it's worth, at the end of the article Dater casts Kevin Dineen and Todd McLellan as the top two candidates, with Pat Burns and Ron Wilson as more experienced but likely secondary.  Who really knows, though?  Dineen and McLellan have teams that ...
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