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Can Fundamentalists fellowship with Mark Dever?
2008-06-18 13:53:00 I’ve been distracted from my current series by some blog discussions regarding Mark Dever and fundamentalism. (I plan to bring my next post in the Land series tomorrow, Lord willing). Mark Dever recently interviewed Mark Minnick, who teaches at BJU and pastors in Greenville. I haven’t listened to the interview yet, but I ...
John Piper?s Respect for Fundamentalists
2008-06-02 23:42:00 Here are John Piper’s 20 reasons for not taking “potshots” at the fundamentalists. 1. They are humble and respectful and courteous and even funny (the ones I’ve met). 2. They believe in truth. 3. They believe that truth really matters. 4. They believe that the Bible is true, all of it. 5. They know that the Bible calls for some ...
From Orthodoxy to fundamentalism
2008-05-29 09:44:00 The current Judaism is an aberration. Rabbis introduced its most prominent concept, that of the fence around the law, when Jews went into the Exile. The gentile influence suddenly became great, the option of purifying oneself in the Temple was absent, and so the rabbis developed an immense body of legislation to protect against inadvertent ...
By: Samson Blinded
Set Your Watches for Medieval Time
2008-05-23 15:52:00 Well, it’s happened again. Another group of religious fundamentalists have zealously declared that the mysteries of science are explained by the words of Holy Scripture. I thank God that these folks have not been allowed to push their religious beliefs into our nation classrooms and laboratories (yet), relying as they are upon faulty science to ...
By: Sharp Iron
Remove Fat and Insert Tool
2008-04-23 23:06:00 In my younger days I was a bit of a motor head. I wasn’t into big American muscle but instead my tastes ran towards small European cars that handled well. (This was the seventies and the only Japanese cars that fit this bill were the Datsun 510 and Z cars). My preference was for German ...
By: Sharp Iron
Gravity: A theory in crisis. Enter Intelligent Falling.
2008-04-15 16:21:00 Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new “Intelligent Falling” Theory. Request for equal time in schools has been made.
Schism: A Muslim?s video response to Geert Wilders? anti-Qur?an film Fitna
2008-04-14 06:01:00 Barry Duke of The Freethinker writes: “IT had to happen ? a Saudi man has hit back at films criticising Islam in a Fitna-style video which portrays Christianity as a religion of violence. The film, entitled Schism, was made by Raed al-Saeed. It splices together Bible verses and Iraq war images - including British soldiers beating civilians. Other ...
Japan Focus: The New Face of Indonesia?s Islamic Fundamentalism
2008-04-09 10:23:00 Here it goes again. Uncles with harsh over-smoked voices from Indonesia?s House of Representatives - that is synonymous with corruption and laziness ? droning on about morality and about ?how to protect the nation? from the ills of pornography.This time they have succeeded. While the nation was off guard, distracted by soaring food prices, a collapsing road system and general hopelessness, the House of Representatives on March 25th 2008 passed a bill banning all pornographic websites, threatening to jail users and providers who will now face up to three years in prison or a substantial fine. To be sure, Indonesia is still ?softer? than Saudi Arabia, but the new bill is as tough or even tougher than anti-pornography laws in many other Muslim countries. What are the nation?s priorities?As Representatives were introducing the bill, the streets of Jakarta were clogged with traffic. The rainy season battered almost all transit arteries and there seemed to be no hurry to fix them. The dai...
Liberalism vs conservatism vs fundamentalism
2008-04-02 04:43:00 Liberal is the person who favors progress or reform; he or she is tolerant with other beliefs and views, and is free from prejudice. A liberal person must be generous and abundant, and not, in a stricter sense, literalist when interpreting texts, situations or experiences. He or she advocates for liberty seeking freedom from arbitrary government system, freedom from foreign rule or policy, freedom from captivity, and freedom from any forms of oppression and injustice. The liberal person adheres to the libertarian tradition where there is freedom of expression, thoughts and thought forms.But you can only distinguish or classify ?liberal? when you have identified what is ?conservative.? To be conservative is to spend your life preserving the status quo or the existing conditions of society, cultures, institutions, etc. Usually when the person is conservative, his or her tendency is to limit and moderate change. Major reforms should be avoided in order to preserve peace and order, and ...
Is Mainstream Science Dogmatic? (Repost from December)
2008-03-28 20:12:00 Given that the release of the crocumentary Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed is right around the corner, and that its promotional team is showing the sorts of dogmatism that it is accusing the mainstream scientific community (or, “Big Science”) of (e.g., by expelling prominent critic, PZ Myers from a screening, attempting to bribe Christian schools to force their ...
The fundamentalist?s implicit acknowledgement of his own ridiculousness
2008-03-10 07:36:00 Dave Scot at Uncommon Descent [i.e., a ridiculous blog by and for Christian fundamentalists who like to delude themselves and each other into thinking that 1) Intelligent Design is a science rather than one big faith-based argument from ignorance; 2) that there is some grand dogmatic “Darwinist” conspiracy in the scientific community which is dedicated to ...
?A Persuasive to Unity in Things Indifferent? by Thomas Manton
2008-03-07 18:00:00 In light of Nine Marks‘ recent e-journal on unity and separation, and in light of recent discussions on my blog over the legitimacy of unifying around fundamentals of the faith, I thought I would share some lengthy extracts from a sermon by the Puritan Thomas Manton (1620-1677). I was directed to this sermon in this Sharper ...
Appreciating and Assessing Fundamentalism
2008-03-05 19:36:00 Nine Marks Ministries, a conservative evangelical ministry aiming to strengthen churches by emphasizing Biblical rather than pragmatic approaches to ministry, recently released their March/April 2008 e-journal. This month the topic was unity and separation, with an emphasis on fundamentalism. The journal was kind to fundamentalism. While it recognized a need to balance separation with ...
Calvin on Fundamental Doctrines
2008-03-04 21:16:00 In reading through Nine Mark’s e-journal on fundamentalism, I came across an audio lecture by Iain Murray (editor of Banner of Truth) on George Whitefield and Catholicity. Catholicity refers to a spirit of unity among the universal (i.e. Catholic) church, and not in any way to the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. The lecture ...
Essential Reading on Fundamentalism
2008-02-29 21:12:00 I don’t have time now to get in depth, but I wanted to at least give you the link. 9 Marks Ministries‘ March/April e-journal is on the topic of fundamentalism and separation. Some of the very issues, I’ve been debating about recently here are covered (including article’s I’ve referenced by Albert Mohler and Wayne Grudem). There ...
Fundamentalism - christiansquoting.org.uk
2008-02-21 12:23:00 In every discipline but one, it is a compliment to be called a fundamentalist. A scientist who gets down to fundamentals is thought to exhibit good understanding. An engineer who gets down to fundamentals is thought to design and build sound structures. A military man who deals in fundamentals demonstrates sound strategy, tactics, and logistics. A business man who deals in fundamentals is thought to be able to demonstrate a goodbottom line. But in religion, a fundamentalist is looked upon with scorn and amusement. --- Charles ColsonBecause fundamentalism found itself under attack, it developed a defensive mentality. A harsh and uncharitable spirit came to predominate. . . . Within its own ranks, internal suspicion and bickering over minor points of doctrine increased. From a movement of genuine scholarship, positive statement, and a certain latitude of evangelical position, fundamentalism came to be increasingly a negative, defensive and reactionary movement ---." The New Evangelica...
By: Christian Quoter
I just received a poem from Rapture Alert about Darwin?s alleged recantatio
2008-02-18 22:50:00 For those of you who haven’t heard of Rapture Alert, it’s a website dedicated to the anticipation of the rapture. One of the website’s fans or administrators just sent in a poem in response an earlier post on a Florida school board which had voted to oppose the teaching of evolution as fact. Take a ...
The March of Unreason: Science, Democracy, and the New Fundamentalism
2008-02-15 16:42:00 Oxford University Press, USA 2005-04-07 ISBN: 0192804855 PDF 310 pages 3 MbOur daily news bulletins bring us tales of the wonder of science, from Mars rovers and intelligent robots to developments in cancer treatment, and yet often the emphasis is on the potential threats posed by science. It appears that irrationality is on the rise in western society, and public opinion is increasingly dominated by unreflecting prejudice and unwillingness to engage with factual evidence. From genetically modified crops and food, organic farming, the MMR vaccine, environmentalism, the precautionary principle and the new anti-capitalist and anti-globalisation movements, the rejection of the evidence-based approach nurtures a culture of suspicion, distrust, and cynicism, and leads to dogmatic assertion and intolerance. In this compelling and timely examination of science and society, Dick Taverne argues that science, with all the benefits it brings, is an essential part of civilised and democratic so...
The Legacy Of Modern Christian Fundamentalism
2008-02-15 00:50:00 The word fundamentalism conjures up all kinds of images in the 21st century mind. Many equate fundamentalism with religious extremists who use violence to suppress or eradicate dissenting views. There was a day, however, when fundamentalism, in the Christian sense, simply meant to believe in the basics of the faith. In an effort to stem the growing liberal theological tolerance of some of its leaders, the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in 1910 adopted a list of 5 core beliefs that were "necessary and essential" to the Christian faith:The inerrancy of Scripture.The virgin birth of Christ.The belief that Christ's death was an atonement for sin.The bodily resurrection of Christ.The historical reality of Christ's miracles. If the fundamentalist movement had remained bound to these ideals and had not gotten swept away by other issues, there is no doubt that most if not all orthodox Christians would proudly wear the label fundamentalist today. Fundamentalism, like any ...
By: Two Institutions
The Legacy Of Modern Christian Fundamentalism
2008-02-15 00:50:00 The word fundamentalism conjures up all kinds of images in the 21st century mind. Many equate fundamentalism with religious extremists who use violence to suppress or eradicate dissenting views. There was a day, however, when fundamentalism, in the Christian sense, simply meant to believe in the basics of the faith. In an effort to stem the growing liberal theological tolerance of some of its leaders, the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in 1910 adopted a list of 5 core beliefs that were “necessary and essential” to the Christian faith: The inerrancy of Scripture.The virgin birth of Christ.The belief that Christ’s death was an atonement for sin.The bodily resurrection of Christ.The historical reality of Christ’s miracles. If the fundamentalist movement had remained bound to these ideals and had not gotten swept away by other issues, there is no doubt that most if not all orthodox Christians would proudly wear the label fundamentalist today. ...
By: Two Institutions
The Concept of ?Fundamental Doctrines?: Modern Reductionism or Historic Pro
2008-02-14 18:36:00 Often I labor to reply to important questions in the comments on my blog, only to have my thoughts buried and hidden in the weeds, so to speak. So I thought I would craft today’s reply into a post. I’ve been debating with Pastor Kent Brandenburg on the appropriateness of ranking doctrines as fundamental/essential and ...
Murder plot against Danish cartoonist, Kurt Westergaard
2008-02-13 00:31:00 JP.DK reports that Early this morning Danish police arrested several individuals of Muslim background suspected of conspiring to kill Kurt Westergaard, one of the 12 Danish cartoonists who on September 30, 2005 published cartoons of alleged Muslim prophet. The Danish Security and Intelligence Service had been tracking three of the arrested suspects for a number of ...
Piper & Carson on Essential Doctrines
2008-02-12 21:46:00 Recently we’ve been debating the idea of whether certain doctrines should be considered fundamental or essential, and others merely secondary. Most Christians and even fundamentalists do admit that there are essential doctrines that are more important than others. However, as my last installment of my church’s elder confession of faith shows, this doesn’t ...
Essential Doctrines
2008-02-09 16:23:00 Recently we’ve been discussing whether doctrines can be secondary, or if they should all be essential. In my post “Minimizing the Gospel through Excessive Separation“, I argue that only fundamental doctrines are essential, and when we separate over secondary doctrines, we are belittling the Gospel. John MacArthur agrees with me it seems. On Pulpit Live there ...
Minimizing the Gospel through Excessive Separation
2008-01-30 21:59:00 In extreme fundamentalism, every doctrine is a hill to die on. Music (worship), dress, Bible versions (KJVO), personal separation (i.e. no movie attendance, alcohol, tobacco, gambling), believer’s baptism, pre-tribulational rapture — all of these are lined up right next to the Trinity, justification by grace through faith alone, inspiration, inerrancy, the virgin birth, etc. ...
Comments, Kind and Otherwise
2008-01-28 23:38:00 I suppose my blog is controversial enough to attract extra attention. Unlike some blogs, the comments around here aren’t limited to props from my group of online friends. You don’t have to look far to find debates and places where my own friends disagree with me, too. And then there are those ...
Sharia banking: Not unsecular, but deceitful to Muslims?
2008-01-28 17:41:00 I first heard of the introduction of sharia loan programs at North American banks this past summer. It didn’t bother me, and why should it have? It’s not like having sharia banking options is going to affect the options of others. It’s not like we are all going to have to engage in sharia banking. Some ...
Producers of Expelled trying to bribe Christian schools into encouraging, b
2008-01-17 19:04:00 Producers of the Intelligent Design propaganda film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed are trying to bribe Christian schools in America to facilitate or even force their students to go see their movie.
Religious lunatic cuts off and microwaves own hand
2008-01-16 15:13:00 Mark Robinson of the Clarington Durham Regional Humanists reviews the MSNBC story of a dangerously devout Christian man in his mid-20s who amputated and microwaved his hand, which be believed bore the “mark of the beast”. Amazing how people can believe in a God that supposedly inspired this sort of thing to be written in a ...
Finding meaning in wonder and well-being: An ex-fundamentalist?s tale
2008-01-11 19:26:00 In what is one of the top WordPress stories today, Karen at de-Conversion presents the story of an ex-Christian fundamentalist (Southern Baptist), Bryan, who after leaving his faith eventually finds meaning in wonder and promoting well-being in self and others. This is a beautiful story that speaks to the indescribable value of a number of easily ...
Adventures in fundamentalism
2008-01-06 11:46:00 A Woman on Purpose has an interesting post up on Truth and Consequences that caught my attention, although my own thoughts run in the opposite direction. One of the fundamentals of the Christian faith is personal liberty. Most folks don?t understand that, because they have a mental picture of Christianity as being about arbitrary and stringent rules. I ...
Evolving Ideas I: What are the roots of Christian fundamentalism in America
2007-12-31 01:05:00 An issue that has been on my mind of late has been What are the roots of Christian fundamentalism in America? On the one hand, we have the more liberal Christians and humanist Christians, who take much of the Bible in a nonliteral sense, are not particularly interested in enforcing Christian doctrine on the masses, are ...
Who will prevail after Bhutto?s death: Feudalism, Fundamentalism or the mid
2007-12-30 06:35:00 There’s a lot of discussion, a lot of it political and a lot of it nonsensical, about the murder of Bhutto and the dangers in Pakistan as an election issue in the USA. I mean, when the NYTimes, Joe Biden and the adults like Christopher Dodd blast certain candidates you know that some things are more ...
Jesus Doesn?t Want Santa for a Sunbeam?
2007-12-23 16:10:00 Some nut out in Bremerton Washington has put up a cross in his yard with Santa nailed to it. Normally I wouldn’t comment on such a shameless plea against the commercialization of Christmas, but this one crosses a line and I feel compelled to speak out. Who does this jerk wad think he is? How can any of us enjoy the excess and over consumption that is our right as members of the American Empire® with this kind of criticism paraded before us in a naked attempt to make us think about - well, to think…? I am reminded of the warning Lucy Van Pelt gave to Charlie Brown concerning the Christmas holiday: “It’s run by a big Eastern syndicate, you know.” I think we all realize the danger of crossing big Eastern syndicates, so I’ll not belabor that point. I also remind you of the heresy offered by Lucy’s brother Linus: “Christmas is not only getting too commercial; it’s getting too dangerous.” (When in doubt, I always turn to cartoo...
Fundamentalism, psychotropic drugs and mass murder
2007-12-13 16:47:00 An interesting discussion has begun in response to my post about the shootings in Colorado. Julie of Shanan Trail brought up a question about how Christians in particular view mental illness in light of her experience with her daughter. What I have found in the homeschooling and Christian community is almost a denial that mental ...
Bible Translation & Fundamentalism
2007-12-11 23:42:00 From livescience.com:The translation of the Bible into English marked the birth of religious fundamentalism in medieval times, as well as the persecution that often comes with radical adherence in any era, according to a new book.The 16th-century English Reformation, the historic period during which the Scriptures first became widely available in a common tongue, is often hailed by scholars as a moment of liberation for the general public, as it no longer needed to rely solely on the clergy to interpret the verses.Yup.. all those English speaking peasants in the 100s & 200s living in the Middle East had to rely on the big bad Catholic Church to dictate what the Scriptures said. And how foolish of Jerome to translate the Bible into Latin when the common language in the Roman empire during the 3rd, 4th and 5th centuries was Swahili.Although there are some valid points in this article, I simply had to take issue with this (though it might be true depending on how you read it, it'...
Remembering Babri Masjid
2007-12-06 16:49:00 Who had even heard of it? A nondescript little used mosque somewhere in the city of Ayodhya in central India. On 6 Dec 1992, Babri Masjid became the mosque that no one in India would ever forget, a national wound that 15 years later, still throbs, still pierces the hearts of those who lost forever ...
Mohammed the teddy bear case: Christian critics need to shut up
2007-11-30 19:06:00 First off, let’s not shed any tears for Gillian Gibbons, the British teacher sentenced to 15 days in a Sudanese prison for naming a teddy bear “Mohammed.” Any woman who chooses to go live in a nation with Sharia Law, where you can be jailed for allowing yourself to be raped, deserves no sympathy. More interesting to me are the curious responses from a couple of prominent Christian spokespeople. First, the Archbishop of Canterbury condemns the Sudanese court’s decision: The spiritual leader of the Anglican Church, Archbishop Rowan Williams, says Sudan’s reaction has been absurd.”I can’t see any justification for this at all,” he said. “I think that this is an absurdly disproportionate response to what is at best a minor cultural faux pas and I think that it’s done the Sudanese Government no credit whatever.” Then Dana Perino, speaking on behalf of the United States’ highest-ranking religious leader, President Geo...
Deuteronomy 22:5 ? A Positive Interpretation
2007-11-30 08:11:00 In the comments of my recent post on the women-wearing-pants controversy, I was challenged to basically prove my position is a legitimate positive interpretation rather than a mere reaction. To boil down the issue, fundamentalists often use Deut. 22:5 to teach that it is wrong for women today to wear pants. My position ...
Barroso warns against "climate fundamentalism" before Bali
2007-11-25 14:10:00 EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso has called for the use of modern technology to counter global warming and warned against 'fundamentalism' on climate issues, in an interview with a mass-circulation German newspaper published on Sunday. 'It is important to use energy sparingly. Thanks to modern technology, saving energy does not automatically doing without modern comforts,' he told the Bild newspaper. 'We don't want to go back to the Middle Ages. We want further growth. People should be able to continue to travel in future,' Barroso said days ahead of the United Nations Climate Conference in Bali. 'We need to avoid all fundamentalism on climate issues,' he said. Instructing people how to live in private could lead to 'our society taking on totalitarian characteristics.' Turning to the current high prices of oil and gas, Barroso said they could provide the impetus for Europe to promote a 'carbon-poor economy.' Indonesia News Blog: http://indosnesos.blog...
Barroso warns against "climate fundamentalism" before Bali
2007-11-25 14:10:00 EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso has called for the use of modern technology to counter global warming and warned against 'fundamentalism' on climate issues, in an interview with a mass-circulation German newspaper published on Sunday. 'It is important to use energy sparingly. Thanks to modern technology, saving energy does not automatically doing without modern comforts,' he told the Bild newspaper. 'We don't want to go back to the Middle Ages. We want further growth. People should be able to continue to travel in future,' Barroso said days ahead of the United Nations Climate Conference in Bali. 'We need to avoid all fundamentalism on climate issues,' he said. Instructing people how to live in private could lead to 'our society taking on totalitarian characteristics.' Turning to the current high prices of oil and gas, Barroso said they could provide the impetus for Europe to promote a 'carbon-poor economy.' Indonesia News Blog: http://indosnesos.blog...
Fundamentalist Christian preaching
2007-11-23 21:05:00 So there I was thinking I had written enough criticism of Christianity and Christians for the time being, trying to shift my focus back to Islam and Muslims, but alas… I ran in to a super Christian blog that just compelled me to write! Many apologies to my Christian readers, but I feel I ...
Stand Up, Be Counted - Countering Fundamentalism In Our Faith
2007-11-22 11:03:00 Yesterday I found, in my in-box an invitation to participate in something called the "Clergy Letter Project". After doing some digging I thought it was worth endorsing and sharing. The project is designed to counter the frightfully alarming growth of "Christian" fundamentalists attempting to impose variations of creationism upon us. Since our OC/IC heritage emerged in part supporting developments in modern scholarship I think it's a good cause and encourage everyone to check out the site and see how your local community can join the campaign.My local London community benefits from having a Scientist - I think we'll put together a video for Evolution Weekend 2008.On a lighter note - You may remember some time ago I posted on the opening of the Creation Museum in Petersburg KY - if you need a laugh, John Spalding's article is well worth the read.
By: Bozhe!
Holding on to the Cultural Norms of a Bygone Era: A Look at Fundamentalism?
2007-11-21 19:28:00 Hardly anyone today would consider the wearing of pants by women to be a breach of decency or a sign of rebellion against the God-given roles of manhood & womanhood. This is the 21st century, women have been liberated, and times have certainly changed, haven’t they? The Fundamentalist Position Yet for many sincere and well-meaning Christian ...
In Praise of Fundamentalism
2007-11-21 19:11:00 "Fundamentalist" has become such a dirty word these days. Let me first say something perhaps a bit controversial. There will be a thousand fundamentalists in Heaven per every one progressive. Or in other words, how much better to be a fundamentalist than to be a progressive Catholic or mainstream evangelical.I've been exposed to quite a bit of fundamentalism. To the evangelical mainstreams at my work, the denomination I grew up in (PCA) would be considered fundamentalist-right wing. In fact, one referred to the OPC as a “scary†denomination. That is scary. I have a number of relatives who would be unhesitant in labeling themselves ‘fundamentalist’. I have more in common with them than with dissenting Catholics. I have more respect for the simpleton thumping his bible and saying that Jesus is coming soon to rapture all the Christians than for the Jesuit theologian claiming that the greatest problem we face today is something that could be solved in the political aren...
Some Thoughts on Fundamentalism
2007-11-20 17:35:00 But then I sigh and, with a piece of scripture,Tell them that God bids us do good for evil;And thus I clothe my naked villainyWith odd old ends stol'n forth of Holy Writ,And seem a saint when most I play the devil.Shakespeare, Richard IIIIn an age in which economists take for granted that people equate well-being with consumption, increasing numbers of people seem willing to trade certain freedoms and material comforts for a sense of immutable order and the rapture of faith.Eugene Linden, The Future in Plain SightMere anarchy is loosed upon the world,The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhereThe ceremony of innocence is drowned;The best lack all conviction, while the worstAre full of passionate intensity.Surely some revelation is at hand;Surely the Second Coming is at hand.The Second Coming! Hardly are those words outWhen a vast image out of Spiritus MundiTroubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desertA shape with lion body and the head of a man,A gaze blank and pitil...
Thank You for Flying Calvin Air
2007-11-19 02:55:00 ?Welcome to CalvinAir. We ask during the flight that everyone please refrain from smoking. There are two restrooms; one located here in basic seating and one up front in select seating. For reasons of safety we have anticipated your every need. You will be allowed to leave your seats when we reach cruising altitude. ...
By: Sharp Iron
An Over-Commitment to Scripture?
2007-11-16 21:57:00 There is an interesting article over on the CT blog site. It concerns remarks made by J.P. Moreland at a recent gathering of the Evangelical Theological Society. He strongly voiced his concerns over ‘bibliolatry’ among American Evangelicals: ?In the actual practices of the Evangelical community in North America, there is an over-commitment to Scripture in a ...
By: Sharp Iron
Defying the myths: the rational, educated, secular, prosperous suicide bomb
2007-11-14 16:24:00 Suicide terrorism. A term that in today?s political climate carries a certain image, like the one depicted to the left. One of irrationality and illiteracy, with fanaticism, religious zeal and 70 virgins promised in heaven for the martyr. Etymology The term “terrorism” comes from Latin terrere, “to frighten” via the French word terrorisme, which is often associated ...
N.T.Wright on the Enlightened Church
2007-10-19 01:05:00 We are all children, grandchildren or at least stepchildren of the eighteenth-century Enlightenment, and have cause to be both grateful for the consequent privileges and anxious about some of the consequent problems. So says N. T. Wright, in his little yet important book “The Last Word: Scripture and the Authority of God - Getting Beyond ...
By: Sharp Iron
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