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Get into Ubuntu with Media [Hardy Heron Config]
2008-05-19 06:23:00
I am in the process of converting old PCs in our office to Ubuntu desktops - and the staff are really pleased with the speed improvement and features, especially after I run through this tutorial on how to play any media in Ubuntu - Hardy Heron. If you want Ubuntu with all your media working, then ...SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Get into Ubuntu with Media [Hardy Heron Config]", url: "http://ozlady.com/2008/05/19/g-et-into-ubuntu-with-media-hardy--heron-config/" });
Grandmom?s guide to Ubuntu: Hardy Heron ate my mp3?s
2008-05-11 11:09:00
Well, it’s time to update the Linux. The latest update is Hardy Heron. Computer people like cute names, and each Linux/ubuntu update has an animal name to identify it. Hardy Heron, gutsy Gibbon, etc. The last time  I updated my Ubuntu operating sytem, I downloaded a torrent file of the iso (in English, I downloaded a new ...
New Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)
2008-05-11 06:28:00
This is the way I like with Ubuntu. Its a productive distro and the main reason is its user friendly Linux ever (Just my opinion). Last day, I just send email to all my staff. Oh God, they are reply my email with the good comments, even they ask me the CD (hahahaha...become supplier for my office).Below is the good thing about latest Ubuntu 8.04:1. The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later.2. You will need at least 384MB of RAM to install from this CD.3. Coming on 2 type: Desktop and Server4. Holy shits...its can install on windows. See picture below. This is the screen shot when you put your CD on your CD drive.5. New desktop appearance. (Nice desktop graphic)Hopefully the Ubuntu can be the best distro/Linux flavor on the future.
Getting Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
2008-05-08 17:30:00
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Canonical Store y la 2da Edición de la camiseta Hardy Heron
2008-05-07 19:14:00
Ya se ha lanzado una nueva edición de artículos en la tienda de Canonical y con ellos la nueva versión de la camiseta de Ubuntu Hardy Heron que para mi gusto es genial. Más información en Shop Canonical Gracias a: Metalbytes.COM | Descarga de Rock para tu Mente Artículo original en Cesarius Revolutions | Cibercultura | GNU/Linux ...
Meet The Hardy Heron: What?s New in Ubuntu 8.04
2008-05-07 07:18:00
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (long-term support) launched on April 24th for desktops and servers. There is something for everyone in this version, but the LTS release will have particular appeal to enterprises. As one corporate user said to me, "I have been waiting for the release of Ubuntu 8.04, because I am using Ubuntu 6.06 on my company laptop and we have to install exclusively long term support releases." The LTS release assures a reliable upgrade paths twice a year with security updates maintained for a full five years.
Tripple booting made easy with Hardy Heron
2008-05-06 11:09:00
Now that the new Ubuntu release has come out tripple booting has become very easy. I am now trip booting XP, Vista abd Ubuntu. I have a multitude of reasons for having all three, I am making Ubuntu my full time OS as you know, but Vista still has its merits. For starters, I know it better, so if I need something done quickly thats still where I go. I use XP for the little gaming I do, about once a week I get together with a friend and play some games, XP is still the best for that. If you take a look at APCmag, you’ll quickly find instructions for double booting Xp and Vista, regardless of wich one you have installed first. Then comes the beauty of Hardy Heron, the WUBB install system. This enables you to install Ubuntu from within the Vista environment and Ubuntu will be added to the Windows bootloader. Since I really hate trying to find out how to get Grubb to boot Windows this was a Godsent and now I’m happily and easily booting all three systems. As a side note, my F...
Editing GRUB pada Linux Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)
2008-05-06 04:23:00
Technorati Tags: tutorial,linux,ubuntu Linux Ubuntu 8.04 yang dikenal dengan nama sandi Hardy Heron baru saja di luncurkan April 2008. Tentu saja hal ini akan segera memancing para penggemar Ubuntu untuk segera mencoba dan menginstalnya. Bagi para penggemar Linux yang belum bisa meningalkan MS Windows karena suatu alasan maka biasanya penggemar ini akan menginstal 2 operating system ...
Set Up A Linux Playstation 3 Media Server (Ubuntu Hardy Heron)
2008-05-05 21:09:00
The Sony Play station 3 is a DLNA compatible device, DLNA is a framework where home electronics can share digital media and content seamlessly. This tutorial will provide instructions on setting up your Ubuntu hardy computer to share your video, music and photos, allowing you to play them through your DLNA compatible devices. Although several other open source media servers exist, I chose to use Fuppes due to its built in support for transcoding.
Set Up A Linux Playstation 3 Media Server (Ubuntu Hardy Heron)
2008-05-05 21:09:00
The Sony Play station 3 is a DLNA compatible device, DLNA is a framework where home electronics can share digital media and content seamlessly. This tutorial will provide instructions on setting up your Ubuntu hardy computer to share your video, music and photos, allowing you to play them through your DLNA compatible devices. Although several other open source media servers exist, I chose to use Fuppes due to its built in support for transcoding.
How to Install Firefox 2 in Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron
2008-05-04 10:54:00
Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron has been giving me a good time lately except for the web browsing experience. Firefox 3 beta 5 is included in Ubuntu 8.04 final as the default web browser even though its not stable. Above all, its not even compatible with Wordpress 2.5 and will keep bugging you now and then ...
Instalar Cinelerra en Ubuntu 8.04 ?Hardy Heron?
2008-05-02 01:23:00
Cinelerra según la Wikipedia es un programa libre para la edición de vídeo bajo el sistema operativo GNU/Linux. Tiene capacidad para retocar fotografías y permite importar directamente archivos MPEG,Ogg Theora y RAW, además de los formatos más comunes de vídeo digital: avi y mov. Cinelerra soporta audio de alta fidelidad y video: trabaja con los espacios ...
Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron Chronicles - A Look At Installation and First Glanc
2008-05-01 16:06:00
Quite a lot of people have been waiting for the latest release of Ubuntu, version 8.04 dubbed the “Hardy Heron” - primarily because it’s a LTS release. So how does the Hardy Heron stack up? I decided to jump into the Hardy Heron brigade and have a look. Is it worth the upgrade? Read on ...SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron Chronicles - A Look At Installation and First Glance", url: "http://sathyasays.com/2008/05/-01/ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-chron-icles-a-look-at-installation-an-d-first-glance/" });
Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04
2008-04-30 14:26:00
Da diversi giorni, ormai, è arrivata Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04, la nuova versione con supporto a lungo termine della distribuzione Linux umana. Per chi volesse conoscere di più riguardo questa release, oggi è stato pubblicato un mio articolo su Linux.HTML.it in cui vengono prese in analisi le nuove feature di Ubuntu. Vai all’ articolo su Ubuntu Hardy ...
Sin sonido en Firefox con Flash en Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron
2008-04-30 00:37:00
Si tu eres uno de los que no tiene sonidos cuando usas Firefox y Flash, necesitas instalar el paquete libflashsupport sudo apt-get install libflashsupport Visto en formatds.org Gracias a: Hablemos con Dios … porque todos lo necesitamos Artículo original en Cesarius Revolutions | Cibercultura | GNU/Linux | Software Libre. Mientras no se indique lo contrario, todos los artículos ...
Gracias por Hardy 8.04? U Rock!
2008-04-28 22:35:00
Una excelente imagen para agradecer a todos los desarrolladores de Ubuntu y por el nuevo lanzamiento de Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron. Muchas felicidades a todos ellos y me uno a muchos de usuarios que dicen: Gracias! Visto en el blog de Nikolas Valcarcel Artículo original en Cesarius Revolutions | Cibercultura | GNU/Linux | Software Libre. ...
Usability Testing Hardy Heron With a Girlfriend
2008-04-28 19:34:00
toomin writes “Reviews of the latest Ubuntu version, 8.04 Hardy Heron, are everywhere, but most of them are undertaken by geeks familiar with Linux. This guy sits his girlfriend down at a brand-new Ubuntu installation and asks her to perform some basic tasks. Some of them are surprisingly easy, others frustrate and annoy. There are ...
By: Pundit
Hardy Heron: uno sguardo da vicino !
2008-04-28 18:00:00
Con l’uscita della nuova distro di Ubuntu, molti di voi avrannò aggiornato il proprio S.O. senza pensarci. Alcuni però sono ancora scettici nel fare l’aggiornamento e si fanno prendere da mille dubbi. Ecco quindi delle immagini appena sfornate per convincere tutti gli indecisi. Prima di iniziare ecco le caratteristiche del tema che utilizzo: Tema ...
Fiesta de Celebración de Hardy Heron en SecondLife
2008-04-28 16:32:00
Después del lanzamiento de Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron la comunidad en Second Life se ha encargado de organizar y llevar a cabo la fiesta para celebrar dicho lanzamiento, y ha sido un éxito. Fuegos artificiales, humo y mucho baile han marcado una nueva forma de celebrar en la que el mundo virtual es el ...
8.04 Hardy Heron Obvious Fixes (WPA PSK and Broadcom Wireless Driver)
2008-04-28 02:42:00
For a long time I was annoyed by having to input my routers WPA PSK passcode each time I booted. At minimum I would have to unlock the keyring containing the passcode, even after checking the button to automatically unlock it upon login. These issues are resolved in the new release of Ubuntu. The new ...
Hardy Heron and Stuff?..
2008-04-28 00:00:00
Hello there. I can't believe it's been nearly a month since I wrote anything. Recently I've found myself pre-occupied with other things so I've been neglecting you. I'm sorry! There has been a major change in the Ubuntu landscape since the last time I put finger to keyboard. Hardy Heron has ...
By: Just Uber
Hardy Heron – my odd first experiences
2008-04-27 19:30:00
Linux Ubuntu 8.04 virgin no longer, I popped my own cherry last night, installing Hardy Heron for the first time, with some odd installation experiences I can only hope aren’t the ‘norm’. So, what happened? So, Hardy Heron, Ubuntu 8.04, the final release version. You’re finally on my computer. It’s been a long wait – I never did bother with your predecessors Eft, Gibbon and the rest.
Hardy Heron – my odd first experiences
2008-04-27 19:30:00
Linux Ubuntu 8.04 virgin no longer, I popped my own cherry last night, installing Hardy Heron for the first time, with some odd installation experiences I can only hope aren’t the ‘norm’. So, what happened? So, Hardy Heron, Ubuntu 8.04, the final release version. You’re finally on my computer. It’s been a long wait – I never did bother with your predecessors Eft, Gibbon and the rest.
Come rendere il ?Gestore Archivi? di Hardy Heron compatibile con i forma
2008-04-27 18:00:00
Al giorno d’oggi, l’aumento delle dimensioni dei file e il bisogno di scambiare documenti in modo sempre più veloce hanno portato ad una diffusione di software dediti alla compressione. Il più famoso tra questi è senz’altro WinZip, che gestisce gli archivi in formato .zip ed è ormai supportato da tutti i sistemi operativi. Con il passare ...
The Perfect Server - Ubuntu Hardy Heron (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server)
2008-04-27 14:32:00
This tutorial shows how to set up an Ubuntu Hardy Heron (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS) server that offers all services needed by ISPs and hosters: Apache web server (SSL-capable) with PHP and Ruby, Postfix mail server with SMTP-AUTH and TLS, BIND DNS server, Proftpd FTP server, MySQL server, Courier POP3/IMAP, Quota, Firewall, etc.
The Perfect Server - Ubuntu Hardy Heron (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server)
2008-04-27 14:32:00
This tutorial shows how to set up an Ubuntu Hardy Heron (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS) server that offers all services needed by ISPs and hosters: Apache web server (SSL-capable) with PHP and Ruby, Postfix mail server with SMTP-AUTH and TLS, BIND DNS server, Proftpd FTP server, MySQL server, Courier POP3/IMAP, Quota, Firewall, etc.
5 Killer PC Games playable on Ubuntu: Hardy Heron
2008-04-26 18:25:00
Written by Sunsu This article is from vgpro This is a short list of 5 PC games that you can play on the upcoming Ubuntu release: Hardy Heron. Although these games may have some features disabled, they definitely are evidence of how far Linux gaming really has come. Some of the listed games run using Wine, ...SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "5 Killer PC Games playable on Ubuntu: Hardy Heron", url: "http://www.bspcn.com/2008/04/2-6/5-killer-pc-games-playable-on--ubuntu-hardy-heron/" });
By: Lame News
Come aggiornare Ubuntu ad Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS
2008-04-26 17:36:00
Salve!!! Come ben sapete, la versione 8.04, Hardy Heron, di Ubuntu e derivate sono state rilasciate. Per passare a questa nuova versione, basterà utilizzare il gestore degli aggiornamenti, che si trova in "Sistema" -> "Amministrazione" -> "Gestore Aggiornamenti".Dopo un breve caricamento, nel gestore apparirà la notifica della presenza della nuova versione; clicchiamo quindi su "Esegui Avanzamento":Leggiamo le note di rilascio e clicchiamo, per avviare il processo di avanzamento, su "Esegui Avanzamento":Inizierà così il donwload dello "Strumento di avanzamento", in grado di far avvenire l'upgrade:Dopodiché inizieranno sei fasi, attraverso le quali avverrà l'upgrade del sistema, che sono "Preparazione all'avanzamento di versione", "Modifica dei canali software", Recupero nuovi pacchetti", "Installazione degli aggiornamenti", "Pulizia" ed infine "riavvio del sistema".Il primo, come dice il nome, prepara il sistema per l'upgrade, il secondo modificherà i repository per la nuova ver...
Five Softwares to Install in Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron [Recommendation]
2008-04-26 12:03:00
The much-awaited 8.04 version of the Ubuntu Desktop named ‘Hardy Heron’ was released yesterday. I downloaded the 699 MB ISO and managed to install it today. There have been really worthy improvements. We can only hope that this latest version brings a lot of users into the Linux World. Ubuntu comes with functional and free software ...
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS,Hardy Heron is out
2008-04-26 06:40:00
Ubuntu’s latest version, Hardy Heron was released last night. It features GNOME 2.22, a new version of the Nautilus file manager, Linux kernel 2.6.24, PolicyKit, Firefox 3 Beta 5, Brasero (A CD/DVD burning application), Transmission BitTorrent client, World Clock Applet, Vinagre remote desktop (VNC) client , Uncomplicated Firewall, Totem movie player with a YouTube plugin that makes it possible to search for and play YouTube videos directly, Inkscape (PDF viewer), Xorg 7.3 etc. to name a few.. Download it at : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu-/download Or Upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
Installation af Ubuntu 8.04 ( Hardy Heron )
2008-04-26 04:39:00
Nu er jeg så færdig med mine forskellige installationsforsøg ! Og jeg vil meget gerne fortælle om, hvordan min oplevelse af det har været. Det er ikke en desideret installationsmanual jeg har skrevet, for det er dårlig nok nødvendigt og det kan også findes så mange andre steder. I stedet er det en forklaring på hvad jeg foretager ...
By: Soderblom
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS "Hardy Heron" ya disponible
2008-04-26 00:00:00
La nueva versión 8.04 LTS "Hardy Heron" de la distribución de Linux más popular, Ubuntu, ya está disponible para su descarga (CD, DVD). Entre sus novedades tenemos el kernel 2.6.24, Gnome 2.22, Xorg 7.3, Firefox 3, el programa de grabación Brasero, el cliente bittorrent Transmission, la aplicación de seguridad PolicyKit y el instalador para Windows Wubi. Además con esta Long-Term Suport tendremos soporte y actualizaciones para Hardy Heron durante tres años.
Salió a la luz el Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04
2008-04-25 10:25:00
Como era previsto, los creadores de la distribución de Linux Ubuntu lanzaron su más nuevo producto en tiempo y forma. Al momento de escribir esta nota estoy usando el Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon, pero seguramente en los próximos días actualizaré a esta versión (soy muy quisqilloso con respecto a eso, y quiero tener lo último siempre). Esta ...
Ya ha sido publicada Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron !!
2008-04-24 23:22:00
  Después de una mañana entera de espera, al medio dáa salió la tan esperada nueva versión de la distribución linux de moda: Ubuntu 8.04 y es que cada dia mas gente se pasa al software libre que va evolucionando a ser tan fácil de manejar como lo es un sistema con windows, un sistema intuitivo ...
Baixe a versão final do Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
2008-04-24 22:20:00
Após seis meses de desenvolvimento com 6 versões alfa uma versão beta e uma release candidate, foi lançada a versão final do Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, também conhecida como Hardy Heron. Esta versão é LTS (Long Term Support), ou seja, terá suporte oficial durante três anos para a versão Desktop e cinco anos para a versão ...
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
2008-04-24 22:15:00
Após seis meses de desenvolvimento com 6 versões alfa uma versão beta e uma release candidate, foi lançada a versão final do Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, também conhecida como Hardy Heron. Esta versão é LTS (Long Term Support), ou seja, terá suporte oficial durante três anos para a versão Desktop e cinco anos para a versão Server ...
Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron, a bajar!
2008-04-24 20:30:00
No vamos a andar con vueltas porque seguro que estan todos desesperados por bajar, asi que aca les dejo los links para bajar la ISO de la última version de Ubuntu, la 8.04, tambien conocida como Hardy Heron. Seguramente en un post siguiente comente las novedades. PC (Intel x86) desktop CD 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD PC ...
Ubuntu Hardy Heron is Released Today!
2008-04-24 20:21:00
Well I'm unable to attend the launch in London's Soho this evening, but just to let you know that today marks the release of Ubuntu 8.04, codenamed the 'Hardy Heron'. Ubuntu is an alternative linux operating system which you can use on your PC or laptop instead of (or as well as) Microsoft Windows, and I use it all the time on my home computer. You can check it out and download a version to try
Descargar Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron)
2008-04-24 18:51:00
Desde hace unas horas se encuentra disponible la nueva version de Ubuntu, la cual podrán descargar desde el link en la parte inferior, Prueben y avisen si es mas estable: Descargar: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
Disponibile per il Download Ubuntu 8.04 ?Hardy Heron?
2008-04-24 17:02:00
Ebbene, come da titolo, non c?è da dire molto; oppure no? Tutto ebbe inizio il 29 Agosto di quel felice anno , il 2006, quando venne rilasciata per la prima volta la distribuzione Linux Freeware e OpenSource che avrebbe, in futuro, incassato milioni di download nel mondo; nonché Ubuntu 6.06 Codename Dapper Drake. Quel giorno ricorda molto ...
Ubuntu 8.04 ?Hardy Heron? available for Download
2008-04-24 16:29:00
One of the most popular Linux Distros Ubuntu, gets the latest release numbered 8.04 and code named “Hardy Heron,” available for download and upgrading. Lots of cool features like, revamped user interface, new version of Xorg , hot-switching of display, enhanced default photo manager, better default video player and tons of other great features. Ubuntu ...
Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04? listo para descarga
2008-04-24 16:12:00
Por fin ya nos podemos descargar el Ubuntu 8.04, en la que nos imaginamos que muchos estuvieron hasta la madrugada de ayer esperando que se colgaran el los FTP de la empresa… Si eres un fánatico de este sistema operativo, te aconsejamos que dejes de leer y te pases a descargarlo de inmediato… entre las ...
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Lanzado y listo para su descarga
2008-04-24 15:26:00
El gran esperado momento ha llegado! Con un banner muy bien logrado nos reciben en www.ubuntu.com Anunciándonos que ya podemos descargar la nueva versión de Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron según lo anuncia el sitio oficial de Ubuntu. Así mismo está pasando con Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu y Gobuntu las que también están lanzando sus versions 8.04. Dentro ...
Descarga e Instalación del nuevo Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron)
2008-04-24 13:28:00
Ya tenemos aquí la nueva versión de Ubuntu, llamada Hardy Heron, con la cual, creo que por fin, me voy a aventurar en el mundillo Linux. Asi que he hecho una recopilación de enlaces donde descargar, tutoriales de instalación y demás.DESCARGA:Pagina Oficial :http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/-releases/8.04/MIRRORS :thepiratebay.org/tor/4152923/u-buntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso thepiratebay.org/tor/4152793/ub-untu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso La gente tambien recomienda usar Bittorrent, así no saturamos el server y compartimos más rápido. 64 Bits: es.releases.ubuntu.com/releases-/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64-.iso.tort 32 Bits: es.releases.ubuntu.com/releases-/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.-iso.torrt En el blog de Arturogoga tambien encontrareis una completísima guía para instalarlo usando WUBIQué es Wubi? Wubi es la manera más simple de instalar Ubuntu, sin tener que lidiar con las molestas particiones y demás. De hecho, una de las cosas más molestas a la hora de instalar Ubuntu si "sólo le quere...
Nuevo Ubuntu. Lanzada la versión 8.04 Hardy Heron
2008-04-24 13:12:00
Hoy ha salido la versión final de Linux Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron. Ya se puede descargar una imagen del Live CD desde la página de descargas. También han salido las versiones de los paquetes Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu JeOS, UbuntuStudio y Mythbuntu. Todos los usuarios y amantes de esta distro de Linux están de enhorabuena. ...
Poster de Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
2008-04-24 07:43:00
Leo en Ubuntips los fanáticos Ubuntu ha hecho la tarea y se ha liberado un Poster con un diseño genial con un tux que parece de la mafia como dicen en Ubuntips: Muy bueno. La única pena como se menciona en los comentarios es la ausencia del nombre de Stallman. El bueno de Richard ...
Diseño de Arte para Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron ya está disponible!
2008-04-24 07:34:00
Ya se han liberado los diseños que llevan los discos del lanzamiento de Ubuntu en todos sus sabores. El equipo de Marketing al parecer no ha querido meterle más diseño a los CD’s pero si que han cambiado la “cajita” donde vendrán y con una imagen distinta. Al parecer Ubuntu quiere manejar una imagen corporativa de ...
Wubi do bee do, installing Ubuntu now so easy but Hardy Heron still too har
2008-04-24 07:10:00
Thanks to a wonderful new open source tool called Wubi, downloading and installing the latest version of Ubuntu Linux is now a snap for Windows users. It’s a pity the Ubuntu development team still hasn’t taken the hint with its latest release, Hardy Heron.
Wubi do bee do, installing Ubuntu now so easy but Hardy Heron still too har
2008-04-24 07:10:00
Thanks to a wonderful new open source tool called Wubi, downloading and installing the latest version of Ubuntu Linux is now a snap for Windows users. It’s a pity the Ubuntu development team still hasn’t taken the hint with its latest release, Hardy Heron.
Ubuntu Hardy Heron is releasing tomarrow
2008-04-23 16:59:00
Are you going to try the stable release of Ubuntu hardy heron on its first day?? I guess there are many Ubuntu lovers like me waiting for the stable release. I’m using the alpha release now. I must say that Ubuntu 8.04 is really awesome.I love the graphics and the sound quality is too good ...
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