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South Carolina churches to allow gambling ?
2008-02-18 15:41:00 Yes you have read the title correctly . Gambling for charity in churches would become legal here in South Carolina , my home state, under a bill that has been approved by the State Senate. I say fine and dandy myself, they been playing bingo games to raise money for ages and I don't really see much of a difference. This new legislation would let churches and other nonprofit groups host card games along with other casino games to raise money. The bill will exempt them from South Carolina 's 200-year-old law that prohibits dice and card games. Churches here have always preached against gambling, but I'll wager to say that they will be holding weekly games if the Governor passes this bill. I can almost imagine going down to the church to play some Texas Holdem or some BlackJack...on second thought, I don't think I can. lolI don't think the poker bill will have much luck of passing when and if it reaches Governor Mark Sanford's desk myself .&...
Chatting with APCW's J.Todd
2008-02-15 14:38:00 This is an interview that I had done in March of 07 at my old site . I felt the need to move it here for folk to read . If you have never heard of the the Association of Players ,Casinos and Webmasters , I encourage you to visit them and become a member and start receiving J. Todd's weekly video news clip . You will never meet a man more dedicated to saving online poker .1. J. Todd , maybe you could start off by letting the folks know a bit about the APCW ?The Association of Players, Casinos and Webmasters was founded in 2003 and has become one of the premier voices in the online gaming industry. We offer unique information, services, and content that's valuable to each segment of our community. Additionally, we are always looking for innovative ways to work with other organizations to help bring online gaming back to the US and keep it legal in the rest of the world.Our Auditing Program has helped us established a solid and respected reputation, and helped to recover tens of thou... More About: Chatting
Playing Rummy Online
2008-02-12 15:29:00 I grew up playing rummy with my mom and brothers . My dad would play sometimes , but my mom was really the rummy wiz in our house . After I grew up and got married , I found out that the wife just loves the game . So a few nights a week we'd get us a gin game going and have a pretty good time .As the years passed and having a family of my own , the wife and I taught our three children the game of gin rummy . Friday nights was always my poker night , but come Saturday it was time to gather around the table with the family and play some rummy . Those were some good times around that old kitchen table. We'd share the weeks happenings and just kid around with each other .Well the kids have all grown up and having kids of their own now . Glenda (the wife) and I would play against each other at times but it just didn't quite seem to be as challenging with just the two of us , so we had soon bout stopped playing rummy . I taught her how to play poker and she would play every now and the... More About: Online
Super Tuesday - Candidates stance on Poker
2008-02-04 18:48:00 With Super Tuesday being tomorrow , I thought it might be a good time to refresh everyone's mind on where all the remaining candidates stand on online poker and gambling in general . Technically it is still not illegal under federal law to play poker online in the United States. (Though a few states do have laws against it.) The UIGEA only made payment transfers to gambling sites illegal.According to the Poker Players Alliance and Poker Listings.com, this is both the Republican and Democrats stance .The Republicans Mike Huckabee - An ordained Baptist minister, he has promised to veto any legislation passed by Congress legalizing online gambling in any form. His response to a questionnaire from the National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling is highlighted: “Last year, Congress voted overwhelmingly to criminalize most forms of Internet gambling. This year some members of Congress are promoting legislation to legalize Internet gambling. If such legislation passed, ... More About: Candidates , Super Tuesday
Charity Poker Tournament News
2008-02-03 15:53:00 Just wanted to let everyone know the outcome for the 5Th Street Charity Ball yesterday . We had 68 players show up to help the Make a Wish Foundation and we raised $136.00 for the children . That may not sound like a lot of money , but through the months the money does add up . I hope to soon be getting the total amount raised to date . I do want to congratulate one Micky08 who won the game . Wear that new accolade with pride .I got busted out fairly early myself when I was dealt the hooks. The blinds were at 20 and I raised to 100 and had one caller . The flop came K-A-K and I checked , as did the caller . The turn came J giving me my boat.........I'm thinking by this time that the other player might have A-Q or A-J . I push allin , he calls and shows me that he's holding the bullets ! All I could say was well played.........his check at the flop had trapped me like a deer in a set of head lights.We here at the House of Poker Blues have a poll going at the forum as well folk . Af... More About: News , Tournament
House of Poker Blues Forum
2008-01-30 15:36:00 I just want to give an update on the House of Poker Blues forum . A lot of folk have been frustrated with how slow and all she has been for the last month or so, myself included, but the new servers have now been installed and are up and running . Yep , the forum is now up to speed and all is well . While I'm here I also want to remind everyone that our Charity Ball tourney is this Saturday . You can now play it at Walker Poker or Carbon . It's your choice . :-) Here is the information again .We hold a monthly game at Walker Poker or Carbon Poker for this worthy charity and it's called "The 5th Street Charity Ball". The game is every month on the first Saturday and it's just a 4.40 entry fee , with half the proceeds going to the Make a Wish Foundation to help terminally ill children .5th Street Charity BallSite: Carbon Poker or Walker PokerDescription: House of Poker Blues Special Charity Tournament - $2 ofentry-fee going to Make-A-Wish Foundation.Tab Location: Tournam... More About: Forum
House of Poker Blues Forum
2008-01-30 15:36:00 I just want to give an update on the House of Poker Blues forum . A lot of folk have been frustrated with how slow and all she has been for the last month or so, myself included, but the new servers have now been installed and are up and running . Yep , the forum is now up to speed and all is well . While I'm here I also want to remind everyone that our Charity Ball tourney is this Saturday . You can now play it at Walker Poker or Carbon . It's your choice . :-) Here is the information again .We hold a monthly game at Walker Poker or Carbon Poker for this worthy charity and it's called "The 5th Street Charity Ball". The game is every month on the first Saturday and it's just a 4.40 entry fee , with half the proceeds going to the Make a Wish Foundation to help terminally ill children .5th Street Charity BallSite: Carbon Poker or Walker PokerDescription: House of Poker Blues Special Charity Tournament - $2 ofentry-fee going to Make-A-Wish Foundation.Tab Location: Tournam... More About: Forum
Febuary with Carbon poker
2008-01-29 11:36:00 Now is a great time to come and join us at Carbon poker.With some great deposit bonuses,a wide variety of poker and casino games together with lots of freerolls there's never been a better chance to win and to top it all we're celebrating February in style by spreading the love of Valentine's Day to all our poker players. Of course, love is always sweetened with a nice win at the tables, so it's time for everyone to take on CarbonPoker .com's Heart Attack! We'll be running a Heart Attack freeroll every day, open to any player who has earned at least 700 Comp Points before the tournament. In your Player Admin section, we have set up a personalized Freeroll Counter, which tracks how many Comp Points you need to collect before earning a coupon for entry into our daily freerolls. There is a guaranteed $500 prize pool to win in each daily tournament throughout the week, and $1000 on both Saturday and Sunday. There's no break in the action, with four ...
The Women's Poker Hall of Fame
2008-01-27 15:17:00 It's been long over due in my opinion , but there are plans for an early February induction of the first four members to the Women's Poker Hall of Fame . The first four ladies who will be inducted are Susie Isaacs, Barbara Enright, Linda Johnson and Marsha Waggoner. Congratulations ladies .Susie Isaacs gained poker fame at the 1996 WSOP when she won her first bracelet in the Ladies stud event. She then went on to make WSOP history by winning back-to-back bracelets in the event when she won again in the 1997 WSOP. Isaacs has a distinguished career of wins and cashes that span over 20 years in poker .Barbara Enright's career spans over 30 years. She was the first and only lady to ever be inducted into the Poker Hall of Fame. Some of her poker accomplishments are listed below: Winner, 1986 WSOP Bracelet Ladies Stud Event Winner, 1994 WSOP Bracelet Ladies Stud Event Fifth place, 1995 WSOP Main Event – (first woman to make ME final table) Winner 1996 WSOP Pot-Limit Hold'emLind...
The Women's Poker Hall of Fame
2008-01-27 15:17:00 It's been long over due in my opinion , but there are plans for an early February induction of the first four members to the Women's Poker Hall of Fame . The first four ladies who will be inducted are Susie Isaacs, Barbara Enright, Linda Johnson and Marsha Waggoner. Congratulations ladies .Susie Isaacs gained poker fame at the 1996 WSOP when she won her first bracelet in the Ladies stud event. She then went on to make WSOP history by winning back-to-back bracelets in the event when she won again in the 1997 WSOP. Isaacs has a distinguished career of wins and cashes that span over 20 years in poker .Barbara Enright's career spans over 30 years. She was the first and only lady to ever be inducted into the Poker Hall of Fame. Some of her poker accomplishments are listed below: Winner, 1986 WSOP Bracelet Ladies Stud Event Winner, 1994 WSOP Bracelet Ladies Stud Event Fifth place, 1995 WSOP Main Event – (first woman to make ME final table) Winner 1996 WSOP Pot-Limit Hold'emLind...
My list of Poker Manners / Etiquette
2008-01-24 14:20:00 I've been reading a lot of forums lately and I'm seeing a lot of talk out there about rude and discourteous players . While I know it can be a touchy subject , I'm going to list my opinion on poker etiquette . 1. Be nice - It is not the dealer’s fault you missed that straight , and it sure ain't Imafish's fault . Don’t yell , swear or laugh at them , instead spend that time thinking of how you might change your game plan to beat them in the long run . Remember that Poker used to be known as a Gentlemens game , lets try and keep it that way......2. Know the basics - Beginners don't need to know every aspect of the game such as odds and outs , but at least know hand rankings and basic play before sitting down with others. Not every hand calls for allin preflop ,do some research and read books to further your knowledge of the game , you'll be glad you did ........3. Get a move on - You might think it's cool to d... More About: Etiquette , List , Manners
My list of Poker Manners / Etiquette
2008-01-24 14:20:00 I've been reading a lot of forums lately and I'm seeing a lot of talk out there about rude and discourteous players . While I know it can be a touchy subject , I'm going to list my opinion on poker etiquette . 1. Be nice - It is not the dealer’s fault you missed that straight , and it sure ain't Imafish's fault . Don’t yell , swear or laugh at them , instead spend that time thinking of how you might change your game plan to beat them in the long run . Remember that Poker used to be known as a Gentlemens game , lets try and keep it that way......2. Know the basics - Beginners don't need to know every aspect of the game such as odds and outs , but at least know hand rankings and basic play before sitting down with others. Not every hand calls for allin preflop ,do some research and read books to further your knowledge of the game , you'll be glad you did ........3. Get a move on - You might think it's cool to d... More About: Etiquette , List , Manners
Weekend News at the House of Poker - 1/22
2008-01-22 14:06:00 Hello folk . Didn't have a lot that happened at the House of Poker Blues over the weekend other than the league game at Nordica Poker . The league game this past Saturday was pot-limit 7 card stud . It was a small field , only six of us , but what a battle it turned out to be . After two hours of solid play , with just a bit of luck on a couple hands , I managed to win yet another of the league games .There's not but seven games left for this season , and it looks as though I have all but wrapped up the season championship , but that doesn't mean you can't still join the games , we'd love to have everyone come out and play . The games are played on a friendly manner and is some very solid poker for the most part . It's also a good way to learn the different poker games at a low cost , only $2.20 buy-ins . We still have some 5 card draw and 7 card stud along with hold'em left to play . Other than that , I just been spending the weekend helping out with the new grandson . ... More About: News , Weekend , The House
Weekend News at the House of Poker - 1/22
2008-01-22 14:06:00 Hello folk . Didn't have a lot that happened at the House of Poker Blues over the weekend other than the league game at Nordica Poker . The league game this past Saturday was pot-limit 7 card stud . It was a small field , only six of us , but what a battle it turned out to be . After two hours of solid play , with just a bit of luck on a couple hands , I managed to win yet another of the league games .There's not but seven games left for this season , and it looks as though I have all but wrapped up the season championship , but that doesn't mean you can't still join the games , we'd love to have everyone come out and play . The games are played on a friendly manner and is some very solid poker for the most part . It's also a good way to learn the different poker games at a low cost , only $2.20 buy-ins . We still have some 5 card draw and 7 card stud along with hold'em left to play . Other than that , I just been spending the weekend helping out with the new grandson . ... More About: News , Weekend , The House
Democrats stand with online gambling .
2008-01-20 15:42:00 I thought I'd post what the top three Democrats stand with online gambling is . As far as I know it's pretty much a washout with the Republicans. I've heard McCain , Huckabee and Romney all say that they don't see how the internet could ever be regulated....First off we have Edwards . I like Edwards and where he stands on most issues, but he does oppose legalization of online gambling and doubts that it can be controlled. Well Mr. Edwards , I'm sorry to say that that alone has cost you my vote . You and the other two are almost the same on every issue but this , so you will not be getting a vote from me . I'll never understand how online porn can be legal , but not gambling....Second we have Obama . Obama is a poker player himself and admits that he likes a good cash game . Obama says he worries that the Internet is “a Wild West of illegal activity”. He supports a study of Internet gambling and supports regulation to address the worst abuses. Mr. Obama , than... More About: Online , Gambling , Stand
Future Poker Player ?
2008-01-19 21:36:00 Hello folk , thought I'd stop by and post a couple pictures of my latest grandson . He's the forth grandson for the wife and I .Is he a future poker player ? I don't know , but I bet the ladies are just going to love'm right up . :-)His name ? Caden Earl . He weighed in at 7 lbs 15 oz. , 20 inches long and the first pic is him at just two minutes old . More About: Poker , Future , Player
IronDuke poker is starting bounty tourneys !
2008-01-18 10:29:00 If you are thinking of starting a poker career or just wanting to learn to play poker then there's a great site called Ironduke poker. Its part of Merge gaming so the software is excellent,very reliable and extremely secure.They have some really cool features including rabbit hunt (where you can show your opponents that fold to you what cards would have been drawn) and also some great deposit bonuses as displayed below.Iron duke poker are soon to start bounty tournaments to which I think will be very popular and cant wait to participate. There is also the $50,000 monthly free roll,the $10,000 and $2000 weekly freerolls and not forgetting the daily $1000 free rolls plus a 24/7 customer support to help you whenever the need may arise .They have a wide selection of poker games available to play as well as some great casino games. Players making an INITIAL DEPOSIT in 2008 using the deposit code "2008" will receive : * 100% Deposit Bonus up to $2500 * 14 Days Free e... More About: Poker , Bounty
IronDuke poker is starting bounty tourneys !
2008-01-18 10:29:00 If you are thinking of starting a poker career or just wanting to learn to play poker then there's a great site called Ironduke poker. Its part of Merge gaming so the software is excellent,very reliable and extremely secure.They have some really cool features including rabbit hunt (where you can show your opponents that fold to you what cards would have been drawn) and also some great deposit bonuses as displayed below.Iron duke poker are soon to start bounty tournaments to which I think will be very popular and cant wait to participate. There is also the $50,000 monthly free roll,the $10,000 and $2000 weekly freerolls and not forgetting the daily $1000 free rolls plus a 24/7 customer support to help you whenever the need may arise .They have a wide selection of poker games available to play as well as some great casino games. Players making an INITIAL DEPOSIT in 2008 using the deposit code "2008" will receive : * 100% Deposit Bonus up to $2500 * 14 Days Free e... More About: Poker , Bounty
Chatting with Dr. Snoop
2008-01-17 13:36:00 This is an old interview that I had done with Shane aka Dr Snoop , but I thought that some would maybe like it here on the new House of Poker Blues .Today we have with us Shane from Australia and is part of the staff at Carbon Poker . At Carbon he looks after all the fixed price advertising, as well as the Carbon Poker blog. He also designs all their merchandise and sometimes write content for the website . (and is now my affiliate manager for the site)1. First off Shane, most of us know that Carbon hasn't been around that long , but has taken off quite well . When and how did you come about working for the site ?I actually got the job through a friend who worked there, they liked what I did so they offered me a position with the company.2. I hear tell that one of your favorite programs on the tube is the "Iron Chef " . Do you consider yourself a pretty mean cook , and what do you enjoy whipping up the most ?Kangaroo on the BBQ with some rosemary - can't go wrong e... More About: Chatting
Chatting with Dr. Snoop
2008-01-17 13:36:00 This is an old interview that I had done with Shane aka Dr Snoop , but I thought that some would maybe like it here on the new House of Poker Blues .Today we have with us Shane from Australia and is part of the staff at Carbon Poker . At Carbon he looks after all the fixed price advertising, as well as the Carbon Poker blog. He also designs all their merchandise and sometimes write content for the website . (and is now my affiliate manager for the site)1. First off Shane, most of us know that Carbon hasn't been around that long , but has taken off quite well . When and how did you come about working for the site ?I actually got the job through a friend who worked there, they liked what I did so they offered me a position with the company.2. I hear tell that one of your favorite programs on the tube is the "Iron Chef " . Do you consider yourself a pretty mean cook , and what do you enjoy whipping up the most ?Kangaroo on the BBQ with some rosemary - can't go wrong e... More About: Chatting
Behaviour at the poker table
2008-01-16 11:00:00 Do you feel that some poker players cross the line at the tables ?Do tou think poker players should stay seated at the table at all times until the hand has finished ?There are several points that could be argued about poker etiquette at the tables and the one thing I am against is a player getting up from the table and walking away when he/she is all in, but that's just one of my points of discussion.It would be interesting to see some further comments from readers of this blog to what they might like or dislike with regards to players antics at the felt.I bring this subject up after reading a news article regarding Shane Warne, Aussie professional world cricket star turned poker player who was given a 5 minute penalty during the Aussie millions 2008 qualifier for sending a text message on his mobile phone during the game.If you you would like a chance to win a seat to the next Aussie Millions just click Iron Duke Poker .Does this seem a fair penalty ? Should this pena... More About: Behaviour , Table
Behaviour at the poker table
2008-01-16 11:00:00   ; &nbs p; &nb sp; &n bsp; Do you feel that some poker players cross the line at the tables ?Do tou think poker players should stay seated at the table at all times until the hand has finished ?There are several points that could be argued about poker etiquette at the tables and the one thing I am against is a player getting up from the table and walking away when he/she is all in, but that's just one of my points of discussion.It would be interesting to see some further comments from readers of this blog to what they might like or dislike with regards to players antics at the felt.I bring this subject up after reading a news article regarding Shane Warne, Aussie professional world cricket star turned poker player who was given a 5 minute penalty during the Aussie millions 2008 qualifier for sending a text message on ... More About: Poker , Behaviour , Table
Weekend News at the House of Poker - 1/15
2008-01-15 14:01:00 I'm a day late with this post so my apologies, but I was a might busy around the house yesterday . I did manage to get a couple little things accomplished over the weekend though , the first was winning the league game that we hold over at Nordica Poker . :-)The big thing I got done was changing up the Charity Ball game we have at Carbon . The table was getting a might old looking and it needed a new look . Something more in line with the newest software . So I got hold of my affiliate manager Shane from over there, and he got right on the ball with the changes for me . The table will now be a nice blue color with a new slogan on the table and they'll be a guitar standing up in the corner of the room . It looks right snazzy and I hope that folk will like it , so make sure to come check it out come Feb. 2nd . The design is the same one that was used when I had hosted one of the BPT games from last year . Other than that there's not a lot of changes that most players will not... More About: News , House , Weekend , The House
Free Online Tournament at Pitbull Poker
2008-01-13 15:17:00 Thought I might plug Pitbull just a bit today . They are holding a free online poker tourney today and it just might be a good one .Pitbull is a flash based site so there is no download and the site has some easy players at it . I took the free 10 bucks and in less than an hour managed to more than triple my money at the ring tables with some solid play . This site is ripe for the pickins right now . I do look for this site to continue to grow and have bigger and better tournaments in the near future . They have just recently added Rebuy and Add-On Tournament s and you are now able to add notes on players, which can then be later retrieved if you see the player again on the tables. These will work very similar to how they function on other major poker sites.Want to set up your own Poker League ? You can create your own private league that you can administer and invite your friends to play in. In the 'Leagues' pulldown menu above, select 'Create A League'. The cost to c... More About: Free , Online
Online Poker Series at Full Tilt Poker
2008-01-12 16:28:00 That's right folks , the best online poker series is back and it's bigger than ever before! Full Tilt has added new events at more times for the FTOPS VII . That means you have even more chances to go for the gold ! FTOPS VII will be starting on Wednesday, February 6th and $10 million in guaranteed prize money will be spread out over 20 events . Each one of the events will be hosted by a Full Tilt Poker Pro . The series features a wide selection of exciting tournaments along with some big prizes .Everyone at the final table in any FTOPS VII event will receive a limited-edition FTOPS jacket and players who win an FTOPS VII event will receive the jacket, along with a gold FTOPS jersey and a coveted gold jersey avatar for use on Full Tilt Poker .The main event will be a staggering $2 million guarantee !If you think you have what it takes to play with the Pro's , just click FullTilt Poker to download and get yourself entered in the FTOPS VII ! More About: Series , Online , Online Poker
Playing Position in Poker
2008-01-08 13:51:00 Position is something that can pay off big at the poker table for every game of poker, but here we will be talking hold'em . This is something that is all too often overlooked by the noobs (beginners) of the game. Most experienced players have learned to use position at the table to their full advantage . To become a good solid player, you really need to learn poker strategy and use your position at the table . Where the dealers button is determines your position in each hand . The first players to act on each betting round are known as players in ‘early position’ . The last few players to act on each round are known as the players in ‘late position’. It goes without saying then that the players in between these two groups are known as players in ‘middle position’. The button is the best seat in the hand because that player will be acting last on every round of the hand,... More About: Poker , Position
Weekend News at the House of Poker - 1/07
2008-01-07 17:39:00 I don't have a lot to report on today other than we did have our monthly Charity Ball Tournament over at Carbon Poker to help the Make a Wish Foundation this past Saturday . I'd like to say we had a huge turnout , but I can't really . We did have a few more players than last months tourney with 57 players making the game though . With half the buy-ins going to the children , that came to 147.00 raised for the foundation . I'm hoping that we get a bigger turnout in next months game . ;-) I had a terrible finish when my big slick cost me the game . The flop had come j-4-k rainbow and with only one other player in the hand I thought I had the hand and pushed . I had put them on a-j when they had just made a min. raise preflop and was dead wrong....they were holding the hooks and it was over for me at 37th spot . oops .While I'm here I also just want to apologise to anyone that might be trying to visit the forum and having problems doing so . The forum has been running mighty slow ... More About: News , House , Weekend , The House
Walker Poker - Great poker room for U.S. players too !
2008-01-03 18:42:00 If you are looking for another great poker room to play , I have found just the room . The site is U.S.A. friendly and does have what I consider to be the best option to fund your gaming available , epassporte . The site is Walker Poker and has an average player base of 3000 to 4000 online at any given time . They have what I consider to be the best skin and some of coolest features of any site you can find , like rabbit hunting .Rabbit hunting is exposing the top cards of the deck at the online poker room to see which cards would have shown up next, and check whether they would have won if you had kept playing the hand. This might be applied in case of a hand won before dealing the river or turn card because all other players have folded. At Walker Poker they let the winner choose, so when you win a hand before showdown you can chose weather to rabbit and show your opponents your bluff , or that they were right to fold. The only price is that you will need to show you... More About: Players , Great , Room
Fox News supporting the online gamblers ?
2008-01-02 15:59:00 I've been saying all along that the internet gambling laws need to be brought to the publics attention more through way of prime time network news channels . Here where I'm at I have yet to see anything on the television or the newspaper myself , and I know for a fact that most folk around here have never even heard of the UIGEA . Much less what it means. The problem is that if you don't play online poker or the casinos , chances are you've never heard of it . The law does not make online gambling illegal here in the States mind you , it just bans banks from allowing money transfers to and from gambling sites . That's the simplest way I know to put it . That makes it very hard to play most sites that have casinos , but for online poker sites it's still fairly easy as long as they don't have casino games . A couple online wallets have stuck by our side and say that online poker is a game of skill and NOT gambling . I have to say I agree with this 100% . The proof ?... More About: News , Fox News , Online
Merry Christmas from the House of Poker
More articles from this author:2007-12-25 14:18:00 Just wanted to say Merry Christmas to all out there today . Here at the House of Poker and from the 5th Street Forum , we wish you all a very merry day and hope that your new year will be a successful one both on and off the felt .I don't really have much more to say other than I did play the league game at Nordica on Saturday and had a bit of a suck out on me to have one of my worst finish to date in the series . I had the BB and was holding 5-2 os when a player only made the call . I thought at that moment that the 5-2 was gonna get me in trouble and trouble it was . The flop come k-5-2 rainbow and I decided to try a check raise . The caller bet about half their stack and I pushed allin , and they make the call . Caller shows k-q and I'm all smiles until the river came a queen....Was still a good game though .I'm also working on becoming an affiliate with a new site that I think everyone will like . The site is just a poker room with no casino games , so that means that e... More About: Merry Christmas , The House 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |




