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Finally a few smallmouth
2012-02-06 14:53:00 Been a slow winter bass fishing for me this winter, the weather has been great, but time commitments have made it near impossible as of late. I had not caught a Minnesota bass since November! On the bright side, I did make a November trip to Lake of the Ozarks, a December trip to Lake Falcon & caught a Sailfish in Playa del Carmen, so I am guessing I will not get many sympathy comments from the faithful blog readers.Even with all that, I was feeling some urgency to get my first 2012 bass under my belt and the Minnesota bass season closes at end of February for awhile, so my window was shrinking. So against my better judgement I set out for some fishing this past Sunday in weather temps that I would normally pass on, 14 degrees with wind chill of 1.It ended up being not too bad other then not being able to feel my hands and fingers after touching wet fish a few times. I ended up with 16 smallmouth, mostly 2-3lb chunky fish, all came on a Shakey Beaver comb... More About: Finally
Back From Playa
2012-01-24 02:47:00 It was a much needed break, relaxing with the wife and another couple at the beautiful Grand Mayan resort just North of Playa del Carmen in Mexico. So that and the holidays is the reason for the lack of activity hear on the blog. I did get out fishing for half of a morning, nothing special, but we did "Luck" into a sailfish right before the morning trip ended. It was pretty cool to feel how hard a 40-50lb class sailfish pulls and that is not big by any means for a sailfish. Check out the pics and the video. On a positive note, feel pretty recharged and the warm weather definitely gave the fishing bug big time! More About: Back
Quick Falcon Lake Trip
2011-12-25 14:32:00 This past weekend I finally got down to see my Dad and fish with him on Lake Falcon . A bit of a whirlwind trip and only two days of hard fishing. The weather was about 15-20 degrees cooler then normal for Zapata, TX this time of year. The cooler temperatures seemed to temper the fishes' attitude a little but we still caught some good fish.My Dad spent some time practicing before I got there and had one really good area identified and it didn't take but about 10 minutes to get the first bite, it was only a 2 pounder on Brush Hog it felt good to swing back on a largemouth which feels good to a Minnesotan in December. A few minutes later I got another fish on the Brush Hog, I then tried one of my new Kinky Beavers in Okeechobee Craw, quickly caught a bass and then got a pretty good fish on, turned out to be a good sized catfish. Shortly after the cat, I got a nice 5 plus pound fish on the Kinky Beaver. Just after I got my limit of fish by switching... More About: Quick , Trip
Making Lemonade
2011-12-16 02:27:00 About 11 months ago, I had a whole pile of lemons and now I about to have glass of super sweet lemonade this weekend. Early in January, you may have read this blog post about I how I justified to myself that it wasn't so bad that a dream trip to fish in Mexico fell apart in the 11th hour. It was a tough pill to swallow at the time, but my airline ticket was purchased in my name by the would be sponsor of the trip, so I had a nice credit with US Airways in my name, well this weekend I am using that credit for a flight to San Antonio and driving down to Lake Falcon to fish with my father. Bummer that I don't have some extra time off at work to fish more then Saturday & Sunday, but I'll take my chances for two days on Falcon. My dad has been dialing in on a deep bite lately. I am going to pack the video cameras, so I hope to get some good footage of some Falcon monster to share with you in the near future! Goals for this trip: Exceed personal best of 8.3lbs ... More About: Lemonade
Got new boat out one last time
2011-11-25 02:12:00 Last Sunday I got out for about 4 hours and we caught a few good smallmouth, it was more about getting the new boat out once in Minnesota before it was too late. Now I get to stare at it every day for the rest of the winter, sigh On the positive, with the help of a fishing buddy, I installed new lighting in my garage, I put 6 recessed can lights right above my boat. So now I have great lighting for working on tackle and other boat projects, plus it makes it look like a show room in the third stall. The lighting is good enough, I may do some video spots from there this winter to keep my YouTube Channel fresh. Here is my latest video production. Black Friday deals have already started at Bass Tackle Depot, time to score some sweat deals 20% off and more. I listed some boat props on eBay tonight and I plan to list stuff on ebay on Black Friday while my wife spends at the stores, so I for sure have a G-Loomis GLX and a Shimano Chronarch B SF picked out ... More About: Time , Boat
My New Cat - Long and fun weekend
2011-11-10 02:04:00 Finally recovering from a long and fun weekend. Fishing buddy Paul Coffey and I left Friday after work and drove down to Warsaw, MO to pick up a boat that I purchased from Pro's Choice Marine. We did stop and visit the Bass Pro Shops in Altoona, IA; nice that they are open until 10pm. Got into town for a quick nap in the SUV and then had a nice breakfast at a local cafe.The boat was advertised and they were great to work with, they make sure your boat is 100% water ready! So we did not waste any time and launched the boat into the upper Osage arm of Lake of the Ozarks. After test driving the boat for a bit we fished the rest of the day. We ended up catching tons of fish, but struggled with size, the fish were choking a Chartreuse Shad Ima Square Bill and white swim jigs.Had some solid BBQ at Brown's BBQ in Clinton, MO, large portions and reasonable prices. Then got a room in St Joseph. We then fished for about 4 hours on Lake Mozingo... More About: Weekend , Long
Boat Week
2011-11-02 13:54:00 Ever since my old boat died at end of August, I have been casually shopping for a boat, about a month ago, I found a deal that I felt that I shouldn't pass up and now this weekend I am going to Missouri to go pick it up. Pictured below will be my boat for next year, its a BassCat Pantera Classic with a 200 Merc.Thanks to those that shopped my ebay auctions and clicked a few ads to help me get a few extra bucks in my boat fund! I will be fishing Lake of the Ozarks on my trip this weekend as well. Watch my facebook page to see more pics & vids from the trip and of boat all weekend long.Hopefully weather will remain nice and I can get my new boat out when I get back and get some more smallies like this one that I recently caught.I thought about getting an Alabama Rig for my trip to Lake of the Ozarks, but lead times are just too long after Dan Morehead won a tourney on Kentucky Lake and ebay seems a bit crazy to right now for the A-rigs.So if any of my readers ha... More About: Week , Boat
What's up with the Jika Rig?
2011-10-26 14:51:00 Not too much before being knocked off my pedestal seat by the Alabama Rig this week, I started seeing rumblings on Twitter and forums about the Jika Rig. It seems every couple years, there are new rigs, techniques, gear and technologies to keep up with in bass fishing. As pictured above (Fork Craw, 3/0 EWG Hook, Voss 1/4oz Weight) - can be done w/ single or double split rings The Jika Rig (also called The Jig Rig) is very interesting, it is actually very simple. While Owner company is marketing this, it began is Japan, much like the drop shot and the Neko Rig. You can buy this rig pre-rigged, but I really don't see the point. You almost certainly have the stuff in your tackle box already to make them and if not, just about any local retailer would have what you need. If they don't, order them online. All you need is a good selection of offset wide gap worm hooks, some split rings and a weight with wire loop or attachment on top and put the three to...
2011 MNBFN Tournament of Champions - Whitefish Chain
2011-10-24 14:50:00 I was really looking forward to this year's MN BASS Federation Nation tourney for a couple reasons. One, I am always looking to do well in this tourney and move on to the Northern Divisionals. Also, after the last 2 years where I had a monumental day 2 collapse on Pokegama and then Tweet Gate on Tonka last year, I had a major chip on my shoulder coming into this event.I got a little bit of a late start on Saturday, the first official practice day, but I fished until nearly dark that night. I was on the water by 7am launch time every morning and fished until 6-7pm every day of practice. Determined to find enough quality fish for this tournament. Kudos to my club member Dave Cindrich for borrowing me his boat, otherwise it would have been tough for me to get these long hours in for this tournament.Practice was not easy, although I found tons of fish, I only had a handful of areas where I felt I could get consistent 2lb plus fish that a guy needs to make ... More About: Champions
Gopher Fall Classic 2011
2011-10-24 14:50:00 This past Sunday fished the Gopher Fall Classic , it has been a fun tournament the past few years. It is a random draw team tourney. It also is always close to home and mystery draw with no practice, usually makes for an exciting event. Last year, my partner Dennis & I had a banner day weighing 6 fish for 29lbs. Watch a quick video of our 29lb bag!This year, I drew Paul Coffey, neither of us had been on this West Metro Lake before, but had heard a few good things, so we were excited. We started the day by side scanning an area we thought looked right from map and looking at the shore. We quickly found a patch of rocks. After about 15 minutes, I loaded up on a nice 3.75lb fish on a Carolina Rigged Game Hawg. We tried the spot a bit longer, but decided to head shallow. With the lake not being huge, we wanted to the first to some of the shallow fish before others got the idea as well.I doubled up on a good fish on the first dock ...
IMA Emailer - September 2011
2011-10-24 14:50:00 Welcome to the IMA Emailer -- September 2011 Issue The IMA EMAILER brings you news from IMA pro staff members across the USA and worldwide. While the calendar tells us that the official end of summer is still a few weeks away, Labor Day, the unofficial conclusion of the season, is upon us. It may be every bit as hot where you live as it was a month ago, or you may be starting to see the first little hints of fall. Kids are going back to school, wardrobes are changing and you might even want to dig a jacket out of the closet. If you can figure out how the bass are transitioning in your neck of the woods, you can hit on one of the best bites of the year. Here at IMA, we're big fans of change, as evidenced by our awesome showing at ICAST 2011, last month's version of the industry's biggest annual trade show. We introduced two totally new lures as well as several new colors in some established products. The res...
Island Lake Reservoir Federation Nation weekend tourneys
2011-10-24 14:50:00 This past weekend I had two club tournaments to wrap up the regular season with Gopher Bassmasters. Thanks to Dave Cindrich for being unfortunate enough to hurt his back and to be an awesome guy and lend me his boat for the weekend. We split the lake East & West for the weekend and the two tournaments. I got up there around 1pm on Friday and practiced a bit on the East side. I found a few fish and a few baits that produced some bites.Saturday morning, I went directly to my best area and the boat right behind me had the same idea, good thing I did not daddle. On my first cast with a Vixen topwater, I boated a keeper smallie. I stuck with it for awhile with no more bites. I then went to dragging plastics, and I was able to coax 3 bites including a 19.5" beauty.We hunted around the rest of the lake, I was able to get 3 more keepers on soft plastics. Other then that, we caught some northerns, walleyes and short bass. It ended up ... More About: Nation , Weekend , Island
Not Quite
2011-10-24 14:50:00 Went fishing tonight, hoping the fall bass frenzy would be on like donkey kong, but it seemed things are a bit behind this year. Think we need a little more cool nights to finish off the weeds that are still in process of dieing off.Still a bunch of weeds in a weird state. Fished for 3 hours with a buddy tonight on a metro lake. We only managed 6 bass, 3 were scrawny rats, 2 were nice chunks flipping the pads and I got one jammer flipping a Yum Money Craw that went 5.3lbs.That made it worth the trip, hope to get a bunch of these on the next trip!
Alabama Rig - Next Big Thing or Pushing the Limits?
2011-10-24 14:50:00 As I write this blog, Paul Elias is on the verge of blowing away the field on something called the Alabama Rig and after day 2, the angler in 2nd place, Robert Behrle, is also throwing the same rig. I had never seen anything like it in bass fishing before watching a live on the water video today from FLW. I expect much more on the Reel Time Reports from FLW soon. It was hard to see at a distance the type of swimbaits Elias had on his A-Rig. So I did a little research to find out more about this rig. Turns out, there is a website for it, http://thealabamarig.com From what I gather, its almost like the donkey rig (double fluke rig) on steroids. Similar to an umbrella rig used in saltwater, its painted minnow head with 5 wires protruding out the back with snaps to attach lures, allowing you to fish 5 baits at a time. It seems the most popular scenario is to fish 5 grubs or swimbaits at a time to mimic a small school of baitfish moving through the w... More About: Limits
MFBA TBF Minnesota State Championship - Mississippi River
2011-10-24 14:50:00 This past weekend I fished the TBF Minnesota State Championship out of Wabasha, MN on the Mississippi River . I only had one day to practice which was the Sunday before. During practice, I found one good group of largemouth on Lake Pepin and a couple good groups of smallmouth down in the river on main channel rock and wing dams.On day 1 of the tournament with the wind conditions I had committed to the lake, but made a couple wing dams spots on the way. I caught small keeper smallmouth on a sand drop and had some short strikes on my favorite Yellow Magic popper. Enough time wasted, I headed to the lake. My first stop produced 2 short smallies on topwater. I then headed to my largemouth area, I quickly got a chunky bass on a Red Eye Shad. I then started working the area with my jig and got a fish close to 3lbs, then another good'un on Tube Craw and another on a Phenix vibrating jig. I let that spot rest, got another keeper largie on a mo...
Tackle Junkie Support Group on Twitter #LBA
2011-10-24 14:50:00 Are you a compulsive fishing gear shopaholic? Bait Monkey on your back like a bad smoking habit? Have to have all the newest lures, reels, rods, etc? Take me for instance, I recently vowed not to buy any more gear to save money for a new bass boat to replace the one I broke. I have fell off the wagon several times:1. Bass Tackle Depot had a 25% off sale, how could I not get a few items to restock for next year?2. I found another place offering 30% off sale, Yikes!3. Lost a big fish during a tourney under a dock on 20# Fluoro, went back to 30% off sale to get 25# Abrazx4. Local Gander Mountain had Yum Wooly Bugs & Money Craws for $1.48 a bag5. Went to other local Gander Mountain to get more Wooly BugsWell, turns out you are not alone and maybe we can help..... There is a support group that meets online on Twitter at hashtag LBA or #LBA. We may not be able to cure you, but maybe we can turn you onto some hot deals, might as well save some ... More About: Support
Quest for a new Boat & My Fall Clearance Event
2011-10-24 14:50:00 This past Saturday I fished the Simply Fishing Marine tournament with my buddy Paul Coffey on North & South Center. Even though I had not been there in 10 years and Paul had never been there, I am pretty confident in my abilities to catch fish this time of year. They put on a fun event and thought it was a good opportunity to put some more money in my boat fund. Didn't quite work out that way, we ended up with 16.5lbs and just missed money and win, just needed one more good cull. I did get destroyed by a biggun on a dock late in the day, but that is fishing!If you are wondering why I need to build up my boat fund, my boat had a terrible accident back in August, it was totaled, see blog post on that.So I have decided to liquidate several rods, reel and all kind of tackle and gear to have a little more cash to put down on prospective boats. So if you want to participate, check out my ebay page, got all kinds of good stuff and I will continue to keep ... More About: Event , Boat , Quest , Clearance
BASS Unveils Qualifying Structure for 2012 Bassmaster Classic, Elite Series
2010-10-27 07:50:00 BASS announced Monday a new qualifying structure for the 2012 Bass masterClassic and Bassmaster Elite Series , expanding the Classic field toinclude an enhanced cross section of anglers and putting an increasedemphasis on performance in single events. My comments and thoughts highlighted in red below where I have a take. While the overall number of Classic spots (36) awarded through the EliteSeries will remain unchanged, in 2011 each Bassmaster Elite Seriesregular-season event winner will receive an automatic berth into the2012 Classic. The Toyota Tundra Bassmaster Angler of the Year standingswill still determine the majority of the Classic qualifiers as the top28 in those rankings will also advance to the Classic. All the more reason to fish for the Win, guys like Kevin Short wished this rule would've been in effect for this year. I like this twist! Following the Elite format, each of the nine Open event winners willreceive automatic spots in the 2012 Classic. With each... More About: Qualifying
Been doing some Bass Fishing
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Hard to find time to blog with the new addition in the house. I suppose I would have more time to blog if I fished less, but what would I blog about? Last Sunday, I hoped to get down for some early practice on Mississippi River pool 4 near Wabasha, but things did not work out, so I just went to local Lake Marion for a few hours in the afternoon. I hoped to find some new fish for the upcoming Celebration Outdoors tournament this coming Saturday, that did not really work out, caught a few decent fish, but I did not feel like I unlocked any new secrets by any means. I did get down and practice both Thursday & Friday for my Bass master Weekend Series tourney this past weekend on Pool 4. Both days were kind of short, only about 6 hours on the water each day. Thursday was very windy and it rained for all but the last hour, I learned a little new water at the top of Big Lake, got one big bite and found a few fish close to the ramp that I felt could be a good ba... More About: Fishing
Celebration Tournament Win
2010-10-26 19:49:00 My tourney partner Ryan Brant and I decided that it would be a good idea to reinvest some of our Pan-O-Prog tourney winnings into the Celebration Outdoors bass tournament 3 weeks after that event. Didn't really have time to prefish with the Weekend Series tourney in Wabasha. Last minute, Ryan had to work, so his brother Corey jumped in the boat with me, no big deal, as Corey is quite the stick as well, he currently sits in 3rd place for Silverado points after 2 events. We drew boat 12, and decided to start shallow like we did in Pan-O-Prog. The first area yielded only a single short fish, but Corey quickly boated a 3lbr in our second spot with a Ring Fry using a Force Bead as weight. We continued with the shallow pattern, I put two decent 2lb fish and a three rats in the well on a 3/8oz Green Pumpkin/Brown Tru-Tungsten jig . During that stretch I got sawed off by a good fish and had another 3lb fish get the best of me and spit my jig. ...
Crazy Happenings in Bass Fishing
2010-10-26 19:49:00 I was all prepared and inspired to document all the things happening in bass fishing right now, but then the guys at Wired2Fish did such a damn good job , I am going to give you a link there , do a little summary and get to bed early! So read W2F's blog and see my editorials below: Triton, Stratos & Ranger boats all under same roof and ownership, good or bad, too ealry to tell. I see it can go 2 ways, either they use their clout and huge market share to control the price and make bass boats even more expensive for all of us or they use their economies of scale and give us all better products for a better price. Also, interesting to see what changes they make to Pro-Staff and tournament circuits they sponsor. KVD is a beast, but I cannot yet dieceide if I like the Post-Seaon format or not, what do you think? Leave a comment, I think I kind of feel for Skeet. I think McKInnis leading BASS forward will be a pretty good thing for all bass anglers, it... More About: Fishing , Crazy , Bass
Putting in my Time
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Not much for tournaments lately, I kind of been busy spending time on Lake Minnetonka preparing for the Minnesota Federation Nation Tournament of Champions in early September. The lake goes off limits for me and my competitors this Friday. It really is a shame that I have not spent more time on Tonka since I have essentially lived in the Twin Cities all my life. The thing about Tonka, there is so much water and so many contours and stuff to learn. That being said, I have been spending quite a bit of time out there mainly driving around with my electronics searching for new deep water spots. The learning curve is still super steep on this lake, but I am trying to do as much homework as possible. I did manage a few nice fish on new spots this past Sunday, as well as an 18" Fatty Smallmouth that I had camera malfunction and did not capture. Not sure what I will be doing during the off limits, maybe doing some fun fishing or maybe trying film some more for "All About Bass". So ... More About: Time , Putting
More Tonka Time
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Spent some more time on Tonka this week in preparing for the upcoming TOC. Mixed results, did not set the world on fire, but learned lots of new water and found a handful of things I am pretty excited about. Keep pecking around and you find a few fish like this fish on a Picasso Fantasy Football Jig . This fish was 18.625", estimated a little over 4lbs In the end, I was not super concerned about catching fish this week, but spend time finding areas that will produce in about 3 weeks. Also, been busy listing fishing stuff on ebay . Polarized sunglasses, Fluorocarbon line and even a G-Loomis Flipping Stick! More About: Time
IMA Newsletter - August 2010
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Welcome to the IMA Emailer -- August 2010 Issue The IMA EMAILER brings you news from IMA pro staff members across the USA and worldwide. It's a month after the annual ICAST show in Las Vegas and we're finally starting to see things settle down. Between the big trade show, the end of the Bassmaster Elite Series season, the Forrest Wood Cup and the US Open, it's been an unbelievably hectic time for our sport. Add into that mix the big changes at both BASS and FLW and shakeups in the boating world and our sport is ready to expand. Recession? If the mood at ICAST is any indicator, everyone is past that mode of depressed thinking and expecting big things in the coming months. Here at IMA we've been fortunate that rather than cutting back we've been able to expand our bait lineup and our pro-staff while other companies have either been treading water or in some cases they've even gone under. We've continued to innovate -... More About: Newsletter
Super Bass Tackle Savings all Labor Day Weekend!
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Discount applied after items added to your cart, free shipping over $50 and add a free T-shirt if spend a $100! Happy Labor Day & Happy Shopping all!!! - http://www.basstackledepot.com/laborday-1 0.aspx Sale ends Tuesday 12:01am ET http://www.basstackledepot.com/laborday-1 0.aspx Offer good while supplies last (No rain checks or back orders). More About: Super , Weekend , Bass
Another Great BassTackleDepot.com Sale this Weekend Only!!
2010-10-26 19:49:00 50% OR MORE OFF SELECT PREMIUM SWIMBAITS!! Tru-Tungsten Tru-Life 4 inch Black Dog Billed Cracker (Wood) CL8 Swimbait JSJ Snack Size Bluegill Black Dog Lunker Punker (Wood) JSJ Tackle Dirty Bird ABT Lures Wagtail JSJ Tackle Hellbird Black Dog Shell Cracker (Wood) JSJ ... More About: Great , Sale , Weekend
TweetGate Rehash
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Crazy stuff! At this point, wishing I would have eaten more sandwiches or Snicker bars instead of goofing off on my phone in those Tonka no-wake zones. But that is all water under the bridge at this point, Literally! Word spread super fast about my diaqualification at the MNBFN TOC. It appears this happened for a couple reasons: 1. Some people thought it was a very severe penalty 2. Many thought it was interesting and saw as potential first of many instances where this could be a sign of the times, and a slippery slope with Smart Phones, Navioinics maps for phones, potential internet on your GPS units, etc. Either way, the outcome quickly garnered attention from several media outlets like Dave Mercer's Facts of Fishing FYI, Wired2Fish , Bass Parade and numerous fishing forums. The comments on all these articles and forums varied widely, which i think highlights how this may be the starting point for many rule clarifications for tournaments in the future. Even if you don'...
Fantastic Fall Bass Fishing
2010-10-26 19:49:00 I took a few week hiatus after the State bass tournament, but finallygot out fishing a week ago today. I was looking for a good solid day offish catching, no strings attached, so I headed up to Chisago & South Lindstrom for about 6 hours. I started out alternating between SWL Buzzbait , Vixen and a Super K swim jig with Optimum Double Diamond 3.5" trailer . I caught a few small fish on the topwaters and caught several decent keepers on the Swim Jig. Here is a video of me catching that first fish! From there, I decided to get to work with my Tru-Tungsten jig and start working boat docks. The very first fish I caught off a dock was 19.5", I went on to catch around 30 fish throughout the day, most on jigs, few more on the swim jig and 2 on a SWL Spinnerbait. It truly was a great day of fishing. I capped it off with a 19.75" largie late in the day as well. The next day, Ifished the Gopher Bass master Fall Classic, which is a no practice teamtourney, where we don't lear... More About: Fishing
A Win to Finish Tournament Season
2010-10-26 19:49:00 Last week I got a Facebook message inviting me to the Simply Fishing Marine Fall Tournament, so I called my buddy and Pan-O-Prog tournament partner Ryan Brant to see if he was game. Ryan lives in Forest Lake, so we could use his boat and I could keep mine in garage, and he was all in. Ryan got to prefish for a few hours one evening, eliminated some water. So our plan was to fish the conditions and keep on the move until we found them. Started shallow, caught a small keeper on a SWL Buzzbait right away. Fish were small early, as we had a limit of line burners that probably wouldn't of weighed 6lbs total. We kept poking around shallow with Tru-Tungsten jigs , at about 11am, I finally got a nice 2 plus in the boat. Shortly after that, another solid keeper. Still not super excited, we stuck with the plan. Then at about 12:30, I finally stuck a good one, it was kind of a mad scramble, as we had to go get it and Ryan was down on the bo... More About: Season
Flippin' & Pitchin' Refresher from one of the best
More articles from this author:2010-10-26 19:49:00 David Walker has one of my favorite anglers on the FLW Tour the past few years, he is a very consistent angler, catching fish both deep and shallow. Recently he also announced on BassFan he will be switching from FLW to Bassmasters Elite Series in 2011. He is definitely know for his prowess with a flipping stick in his hand. Here is a nicely done video with David Walker from the Evinrude E-Team on some basic tips about pitching and flipping and what the difference is. To read more tips and see more videos from the E-Team, head on over to www.EvinrudeETEAM.com and browse through all the articles & videos from all E-Team members. There are great blog entries covering things from boat & engine maintenance, fishing tips and other fun stuff. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
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