Do Not Blame The Jews, Blame Yourself
2009-09-23 22:39:00 Farouk Hosni is back and he is whining like a lady on the conspiracies made by the Jews of the world against him as Egyptian, Arab,Muslim !! It was clear by the end of the competition that there was a conspiracy against me There are a group of the world's Jews who had a major influence in the elections who were a serious threat to Egypt taking this position !! Strangely from two weeks ago he was trying to show the world that he is the best friend the Jews have ever got , it is ironic , is not it !!?? Now Farouk Hosni is turned in to a national hero who lost because of the west and the Jewish lobby , I could not believe myself to find a number of the so-called nationalist writers and intellectuals standing behind him against this plot even the Muslim brotherhood !!?? I understand their position from Zionism but I can?t understand their position from Hosni who has been always accused to be pro-Israeli and Pro-western not to mention his long history in the Mubarak r...
Obama, Israel, Palestinian leaders meet, agree to resume talks
2009-09-23 04:18:00 NEW YORK, Sept. 22 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday managed to get Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas to shake hands and sit down together for talks with him on the sidelines of the U.N.
By: Get rich
Breaking News : Farouk Hosni Lost The Elections
2009-09-22 23:02:00 Yes boys and girls Farouk Hosni has lost the UNESCO elections in front of Bulgarian Irina Bokova who has become the first woman to head the international organization :) Farouk got 27 votes and Irina got 30 in the final fifth vote. Now there is uncertain news that they busted some member in the Egyptian delegation trying to bribe the delegates , the sum they are speaking about is $50,000 !! Now I wonder if Farouk Hosni will be a man of his word and resigns as he promised to do or he will resign and Mubarak will not accept it as usual or he won?t resign and stays in his position !! Man I am so happy but I am sad on that money spent on his campaign and the humiliation and comprises Egypt had to pay all those month to win the minds and hearts of the United States and Israel. Of course he will return and keep bitching about how biased the UNESCO committee is to stand with an European woman and not with an Egyptian Arab Muslim man and surely the official media will go on with him compl...
A Tie For Hosni
2009-09-22 15:43:00 Now it is either Egyptian ?unfortunately? Farouk Hosni and Bulgarian Irina Bokova after their tie in yesterday?s fourth round in UNESCO elections for 29-29 votes. The last 48 hours were tense for Hosni , after all what he got 4 votes compared to Bokova who got 16 votes. The United States and France for sure are standing behind her along with the European countries that believe Hosni does not deserve this important cultural position. The international press continues its attack on Hosni who always felt that the national press was attacking him , let him taste the really media attack is , French Le Monde attacked him and NY Times introduced a new disturbing unknown fact to the Western reader about Hosni : While being the Egyptian cultural attaché in Rome, he helped to organize the escape from Italy in 1985 of the hijackers of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro !! This fact was taken from an Elaph?s website article that I can?t determine whether it is with or agains...
Laila Abdel Salam Speaks For The First Time on TV
2009-09-22 10:12:00 Honestly I wish that Mona El-Shazely did that interview with Laila Abdel aka the Real Samia Fahmy who is currently working in Al Ahrar newspaper. Laila Abdel Salam speaks with Amr Adib along Ambassador Dr.Rafaat El-Ansari who had his share in the real spies war. Ambassador El-Ansari has very interesting story which insh Allah will be featured in Egyptian Chronicles after my recovery ;) She revealed more information about her story which is simple and so short , her trip in Italy , it only took about a month or even less to arrest Mario , the Spy of Israel in Egypt , yes he was not in Rome but in Egypt. By the way here is Laila in early 1970s, she looked like Nahed El-Sharif more than Menna Shalby if I may say.
Israel?s ?options open? on Iran | BBC NEWS
2009-09-22 06:14:00 Israel has not ruled out any options in dealing with Iran’s nuclear programme, a senior Israeli official has said. Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said there was no guarantee Israel would not launch a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel’s ‘options open’ on Iran
By: 1913 Intel
At War with Iran for Thirty Years | History News Network
2009-09-22 05:57:00 From the earliest days of Iran?s Islamic Revolution, its leaders were determined to acquire nuclear weapons and the missiles with which to deliver them. From the beginning, America was always identified as Iran?s greatest enemy, the ?Great Satan?, while Israel was called the ?Little Satan.? It is criminally stupid, if not insane, to believe that Iran ...
By: 1913 Intel
Israel Did NOT Assure Russia There Wouldn?t Be An Iran Attack
2009-09-22 05:50:00 Yesterday, Russian President Medveded announced that he had been assured by Israeli President Shimon Peres that they would not launch a preemptive attack on Iranian nuclear facilities. Today Deputy Foreign Minister, Danny Ayalon pointed out that the pledge was not true, and even if Peres was not a doddering old fool, the office of President ...
By: 1913 Intel
Israel, the last chance of Jews
2009-09-21 09:58:00 Jews have known many exterminations. Eight out of the twelve tribes perished, and the two Samaritan tribes are almost extinguished. European Jews were almost annihilated during the crusades, the black plague, and on, and on. If the divine logic exists, we fail to understand it: the observant, religiously zealous Jewish communities were murdered for ...
By: Samson Blinded
Por Marcelo Birmajer: En el Año Nuevo Judío, el antisemitismo de siempre. 5
2009-09-20 20:32:00 Artículo con motivo del año nuevo y de la reciente profanación de tumbas en el cementerio judío de La Tablada en Buenos Aires. Hace tanto tiempo que estoy muerto, que ya no me acuerdo de si morí. Tal vez estoy vivo y, como Julio Iglesias, simplemente me olvidé de vivir. En cualquier caso, todavía recuerdo ...
Israel and Anti-Semitism?
2009-09-20 14:47:00 One of the horrors of my coming to appreciate human rights as a teenager was the anti-Semitism that still pervaded American culture prior to and during WW2. The Holocaust somewhat moderated dislike of Jews and began to open doors of the numerous institutions previously closed to Jewish membership, a ghettoization almost as restricting as that ...
Shana Tova Umetuca 5770
2009-09-19 00:09:00 Me envia sus saludos y mejores deseos Mariana. Igual como ella aprovecho para expresar a todos los amigos hebreos mis sentimientos de estima, porque tengan un feliz año, colmado de mucha dicha, felicidad y prosperidad. Bendiciones a sus vidas en esta festividad del SHANA TOVA U-METUKA 5770. SHANA TOVA U-METUKA 5770. Esta festividad ...
Do Not Stone Her Alone
2009-09-18 11:47:00 Dr. Hala Mustafa, the chief in editor of ?Democracy? magazine is facing an investigation in the journalists syndication and this is just the start ; what did Dr. Hala do ?? She hosted the Israeli ambassador in Cairo Shalom Cohen in some lecture in Al Ahram center for political and strategic studies. According to the laws of the syndication , she did something wrong as the laws of the journalists syndication are clear : No normalization with Israel , No Israeli officials in the Egyptian newspapers HQs. But was she the first Egyptian journalist to do such huge sin ?? Was she the first Al Ahram journalist to do host Israeli officials in the Al Ahram building ?? I do not think so , Dr. Abdel Manam Said who has headed Al Ahram recently is from the most famous pro-normalization with Israel and from the Copenhagen group with late Lotfy El-Kholly. Al Ahram administration says the Ambassador came to the building without its permission despite the fact I believe to host such heavy gue...
Will Israel?s Conflicting Factions Make Peace Impossible?
2009-09-14 17:40:00 Today’s NY Times suggests that probably settlers committed to the restoration of the original Israel will not use violence to achieve their aims: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/-14/world/middleeast/14settlers.-html?th&emc=th However, let us not forget that Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated for his serious peace-making efforts in 1995. The head of one of Israel’s major parties with constituents mainly from the former Soviet Union ...
Ancient synagogue discovered in Israel
2009-09-11 21:37:00 Did you hear that near the Sea of Galilee the remains of an ancient synagogue have been uncovered? The article contains a photo of a carved stone with interesting symbols upon it dating from Roman times, circa the Jewish revolt against their Roman occupiers. Guess the sandal of oppression switches back and forth between tootsies on a regular, if slow, schedule, doesn't it?
Stories of the Prophets DAY 12. 12 Tribes of Israel Mystical Kabaalah Jews
2009-09-08 03:43:00 DAY 12 The Stories of the Prophets is a videos series. Listen to the explanation of how each family member in the Family of Light was sent with a purpose to enlighten YOU! Ascension of Jesus Christ Story of Truth pt 36 Jews Scripture Signs...
By: Hot Conflict
Exposición muestra cuadros de la Virgen María con cara de terrorista palest
2009-09-04 07:31:00 Exhibición de la Virgen María con cara de terrorista causa estupor en Israel. La Asociación de Periodistas de Israel retiró 7 varios cuadros de una exposición en Tel Aviv donde se sobreponía la cara de mujeres palestinas que participaron en ataques suicidas en obras de Boticelli, Rafael y otros eminentes pintores que muestran a la ...
Israel Vs Latvia Live & Highlights
2009-09-03 04:41:00 Israel Vs Latvia Live & Highlights Israel plays Latvia in FIFA World Cup 2010 Qualifying live soccer match with highlights. Watch Israel – Latvia live, highlights, free online at Goalcentre. Israel vs Latvia live :- Date : September 05, 2009 Kick Off Time : 19.00 UK Time Venue : Israel Sopcast - Media Player - Watch Israel – Latvia live soccer match below ...
Arab inequality in Israel
2009-08-31 09:34:00 The conflict with Jews stems largely from Arab backwardness. Many Palestinians have lived in refugee camps for four generations rather than emigrating?and they can freely go to many countries?in search of a decent job. Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and especially in Gaza ,create enormous political pressure, which the opponents of Israel exploit. Arab backwardness ...
By: Samson Blinded
Arab inequality in Israel
2009-08-31 09:34:00 The conflict with Jews stems largely from Arab backwardness. Many Palestinians have lived in refugee camps for four generations rather than emigrating?and they can freely go to many countries?in search of a decent job. Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, and especially in Gaza ,create enormous political pressure, which the opponents of Israel exploit. Arab backwardness ...
By: Samson Blinded
?Holy Land Hardball?
2009-08-21 19:47:00 The final documentary featured in this year’s SnagFilms SummerFest is “Holy Land Hardball.” The film follows the dubious formation of the Israel Baseball League (IBL) by Larry Baras, a Boston bakery owner with no sports management experience. Stirred to action by a midlife crisis, Baras recruits a diverse collection of executives and ballplayers for the ...
By: Jewneric
Scott Henderson: live in israel
2009-08-16 11:14:00 Scott Henderson just getter and better in my ears and this is another example of this guys amazing playing... been out buying more CD's as a result! Tribal Tech live at Israel The name of the song is "The Big Wave" from "Illicit" album Scott Henderson - g Gary Wills - b Kirk Covington - d Tribal Tech - The Big Wave live at Israel This is a content summary only. Visit Truth In Shredding to find out more!
Israel under Terror Threat: Hezbollah stockpiles 40,000 rockets near Israel
2009-08-05 10:11:00 Israel under Terror Threat: Hezbollah stockpiles 40,000 rockets near Israel border Posted using ShareThis
Gunman Attacks Gay Center in Israel, Murdering Three
2009-08-02 08:58:00 A gunman dressed in black “burst into the basement of the Tel Aviv Gay and Lesbian Association” Saturday night, opening “fire on a support group for gay teenagers.” He fled the scene. Not only have police “have launched a massive manhunt for the perpetrator“, but Large numbers of emergency vehicles [have also] converged on the scene, and ...
By: GayPatriot
Canciller de Israel acusa a Hugo Chávez de cooperar con radicales del Isla
2009-07-30 22:08:00 Hugo Chávez está recibiendo acusaciones por todos lados: El canciller israelí, Avigdor Liberman, durante su visita a Colombia acusó al venezolano de cooperar con “ramas radicales” del islam y de antisemitismo. Por otro lado, El relator especial de la ONU para la Independencia de los Jueces y Abogados, Leandro Despouy, denunció hoy que ...
Israel?s nuclear strategy
2009-07-09 09:43:00 What?s the moral reasoning behind the restraint on using nuclear weapons? The preference given to conventional warfare means societies are okay with their soldiers dying at a slow rate over considerable time rather than quickly. Societies shield civilians who vote to send soldiers to war from nuclear retaliation. In monarchic wars, soldiers were subject to ...
By: Samson Blinded
Investing in Israel
2009-07-09 06:00:00 "Our latest pick is a bet on a low-profile foreign market, Israel, which has turned out to be one of the world's top performers this year," says Nicholas Vardy.In The Global Bull Market Alert, he explains, We recommend the iShares MSCI Israel Cap Invest Market Index (NYSE: EIS), as I expect the Israeli market to continue to perform well over the next few months.""Global markets continue to be locked in a trading range, consolidating their gains of the last four months; this kind of see-saw trading is actually quite typical of the summer months, and I expect the range-bound trading to continue."On the one hand, it would take a spate of unexpectedly bad news to take global stock markets much farther down from their current levels. On the other, the markets are so technically oversold that they are due for at least a moderate bounce."In particular, I like Israel. First, before the onset of the global recession, Israel’s GDP has been growing solid...
Israel to deport Cynthia McKinney, others
2009-07-03 17:12:00 From: Green Party Watch July 2nd, 2009 by Gregg Jocoy Israel to deport Cynthia McKinney, others Fox News is reporting that the authorities in Israel plan to deport Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney after taking the ship she and 20 others were using in an attempt to deliver humanitarian air to the people of Gaza. The article implies that Israel intends to ...
Israel to deport Cynthia McKinney, others
2009-07-03 17:12:00 From: Green Party Watch July 2nd, 2009 by Gregg Jocoy Israel to deport Cynthia McKinney, others Fox News is reporting that the authorities in Israel plan to deport Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney after taking the ship she and 20 others were using in an attempt to deliver humanitarian air to the people of Gaza. The article implies that Israel intends to ...
Israel to deport Cynthia McKinney, others
2009-07-02 16:43:00 From: Green Party Watch by Gregg Jocoy Fox News is reporting that the authorities in Israel plan to deport Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney after taking the ship she and 20 others were using in an attempt to deliver humanitarian air to the people of Gaza. The article implies that Israel intends to keep the ship, registered in Greece. The ...
Israel to deport Cynthia McKinney, others
2009-07-02 16:39:00 From: Green Party Watch by Gregg Jocoy Fox News is reporting that the authorities in Israel plan to deport Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney after taking the ship she and 20 others were using in an attempt to deliver humanitarian air to the people of Gaza. The article implies that Israel intends to keep the ship, registered in Greece. The article quotes Israeli Foreign Ministry ...
By: News for Greens
More on McKinney
2009-07-01 00:36:00 [From Green Party Watch] Posted by Gregg Jocoy at June 30th, 2009 First, I got a return call from the Israeli consulate in Atlanta and the consulate employee told me that the Israeli Defense Force and Israeli Foreign Affairs office has released information he read which says that Cynthia McKinney is not being detained by the Israeli ...
More on McKinney
2009-07-01 00:36:00 [From Green Party Watch] Posted by Gregg Jocoy at June 30th, 2009 First, I got a return call from the Israeli consulate in Atlanta and the consulate employee told me that the Israeli Defense Force and Israeli Foreign Affairs office has released information he read which says that Cynthia McKinney is not being detained by the Israeli ...
By: News for Greens
Israelis intercept Gaza aid ship
2009-06-30 18:56:00 [From BBC NEWS] Israeli forces have boarded a ship trying to carry aid and pro-Palestinian activists to the Gaza Strip in defiance of Israel’s blockade of the territory. The 20 passengers include former US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney [2008 Green Party presidential candidate] and Nobel Prize winner Mairead Maguire. Ms McKinney described it as “an outrageous violation of international ...
By: News for Greens
Obama extends hand to Muslim world in speech
2009-06-05 02:13:00 Obama extends hand to Muslim world in speech CAIRO (AP) - Invoking the Quran and his rarely used middle name, Barack Hussein Obama declared Thursday that America has a common cause with Islam and never will be at war with the faith - an overture intently watched by the Muslim world and welcomed in unlikely ...
By: TexasFred's
Indonesia dan Israel?
2009-06-01 21:48:00 Sejak pertama mengetahuinya saya selalu bertanya-tanya, kenapa situs ini menggunakan peta Indonesia dengan beberapa titik merah di dalamnya? Tampilannya memang mirip situs yang domainnya expired dan diparkir, tetapi yang ini agak beda. Sepertinya disengaja tampil seperti itu. Ada yang membisiki saya bahwa negara kita turunan Nabi Nuh, yang berarti adalah saudara tua mereka ...
By: The Sandalian
Peace? Fear not
2009-05-30 21:18:00 “Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, to you have I given it” Joshua 1:3 Abbas places unrealistic demands on Israel because he cannot push his Arabs to any concessions. He cannot sell them even the best peace offer as he is no one by now. His presidential term expired, and even ...
By: Samson Blinded
Israel and Gaza on a summer mind
2009-05-24 08:55:00 Graphic by the amazing David DeesEssay by Scott Ewing4/8/09Simulposted with Axis of LogicI think I can safely credit Israeli foreign policy with ruining my summer. If you're the empathic type - it's hard to go to the beach and swim in the sun while, several thousand miles beneath your feet, people are being killed en masse by people who should know better about how not to treat people - based on their own historical experience.Israel violated a ceasefire and launched a sustained assault on Gaza last Boxing Day while many of us were on our bach couches, sailing our boats, and favoring a stretched stomach.1,400 people died from planes, tanks, bombs, missiles, and small arms.You can reread that last line again if you need to.These are events. And they happened.At the time, if any of us looked at the daily newspaper about the events then our own vague take-home from reading would be that the events were a religious squabble, fueled by some Islamic splinter group hell bent on global do...
Gaza Disowned: The Pope, Israel and ?Reconciliation?
2009-05-23 02:48:00 By Ramzy Baroud5/21/09?Gaza is not on the Pope?s itinerary, nor will it be. There will be no change in these plans. But I?ll say it very clearly, the Pope is absolutely not going to Gaza.?Such were the astounding comments made by the Pope?s spokesman in Israel, Wadie Abunasser, prior to Pope Benedict XVI visiting Palestine and Israel.As if there was no massacre in Gaza, no families entirely slaughtered, no human rights violated to match the record of the most grisly of crimes in modern history. As if Gaza were a mere irritant in the annals of human suffering. More, as if there were no Catholic flock in Gaza. To clarify, there are actually nearly 2,000 Catholics in Gaza, apparently not important enough for the ?cut?.Now, there are a lot of important religious sites to see around the Holy Land, lots of old churches, stones, ruins and the like?sites of much more significance, such as the Western Wall, the Holy Sepulcher and so on? far more important than visiting the site of a fresh ma...
Netanyahu and Obama: The end
2009-05-20 11:13:00 “Bare Your holy arm and hasten the time of salvation. Take retribution against the evil people on behalf of Your servants, For deliverance has been too long delayed; there seems no end to the evil days. Thrust the enemy into the darkness of death, and establish for us the seven Shepherds.” Maoz Tzur song Netanyahu’s meeting with Obama might enter ...
By: Samson Blinded
Sobre Facebook alerta inteligencia israelí
2009-05-18 20:40:00 El servicio de inteligencia interna de Israel pidió el lunes a los cibernautas de ese país que sean cautelosos cuando usen Facebook, señalando que los árabes intentan reclutar espías en la popular red social en la internet. Servicio de inteligencia israelí advierte sobre Facebook. Yahoo news JERUSALEN (AP) - El servicio de inteligencia interna de Israel pidió el ...
Netanyahu and Obama
2009-05-16 20:33:00 ?They have healed also the hurt of My people lightly, saying: ‘Peace, peace’, when there is no peace.? Jeremiah 6:14 I?ve never bought the hypothesis that individuals shape the history. They can produce ripples, to be sure, but little more. If not Stalin, Trotsky would have sent Russians into Gulag to form a ?labor army? for ...
By: Samson Blinded
Obama Administration Trying to Sell a Dead Horse -- The Nuclear Non-Prolife
2009-05-07 20:19:00 The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is a dead horse. It doesn't work. Iran is a signatory to the treaty, yet, as everyone with any sense knows, Iran is working to develop nuclear weapons, which is a violation of the treaty. And the so-called "international community" does nothing to stop them. Several Euro powers have been negotiating with Iran for years to have them stop the nuclear weapons development. Yet nothing concrete is done. Several deadlines have been set. When Iran fails or refuses to meet a deadline, a new, later deadline is set, or more concessions are offered by the Euro side. Now Obama, the boy genius and would-be messiah, wants "tough diplomacy" with Iran. Maybe he thinks that he has a magic secret that the seasoned Euro diplomats are unaware of. Yet his administration is against force or the threat of force against Iran's serious violations of the treaty, not to mention Iran's violation of international law by making threats to destroy Israel. So the NPT treaty ...
By: Emet m\'Tsiyon
Miracle of Miracles -- Arab States, like Israel, Fear an Obama "Engagement"
2009-05-06 16:16:00 UPDATING 5-7-2009Anti-Zionism is the anti-imperialism of foolsThe half-brights and all-dumbs and smart ignoramuses in the Obama Administration have run into a likely unforeseen obstacle to their obsessive dream of helping the Iranian ayatollahs obtain the Bomb. The six Arab sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf have. . . concerns [about this policy that] . . . sound strikingly like those coming from the mouths of Israeli officials.[AP, Salah Nasrawi, 6 May 2009]Like Israel, they fear the prospect of a fanatic Iran armed with nuclear weapons. Once upon a time the US claimed to fear nuclear proliferation. A treaty against nuclear proliferation [NPT] was duly drawn up and signed by most states, including Iran, which is now violating it. However, after years of European negotiations with A-jad's government over stopping nuclear weapons development, with deadlines repeatedly offered when Iran did not comply with previous deadlines, the new wet-behind-the-ears administration of Barack Obama decl...
By: Emet m\'Tsiyon
Ethan Levi wrote a new blog post: Hello again Israel
2009-05-06 14:55:00 Ethan Levi wrote a new blog post: Hello again Israel Wow, looks like Israel has really developed for the past few years. The last time I’ve been to Israel was 15 years ago. I can still remember some of the places but a lot has changed. Of course, some historic sites still remain and it’s a good thing that they were able to preserve these ... By 'ethanlevi'
By: BackBeat
Israelis Are Now Freaking Out Over President Obama?s Hesitance To Endorse ?
2009-04-18 03:59:00 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu And His Countrymen And Women Are Quickly Learning The Obama Administration Is NOT The Bush Administration After All Paraphrased from The Age (Australia) article: Netanyahu: “We want to bomb Iran.” Obama: “Bad idea, at least not at the... This is only a comment summary. Visit http://guntotingliberal.com to view the lastest content complete with some of the most outrageous original photoshops in the political blogosphere!
Support Israel
2009-04-07 13:21:00 I have joined Christians United for Israel. If you would like to show your support for Israel..Pleas join. Click here.
Bin Laden and Israel
2009-04-05 11:46:00 Osama cannot expand into Israel. His modus operandi is that of a guerrilla group rather than terrorist organization. He is used to operating from safe havens: in Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan, Iraq, etc. Such strategy is a product of Al Qaeda?s lack of sophistication: the group lacks serious counter-intelligence capabilities, doesn?t hide itself well, and is ...
By: Samson Blinded
Steve Vai: israel dates planned
2009-04-04 01:40:00 News: 04-04-2009: Steve Vai is bringing his acclaimed Alien Guitar Secrets Master Class to Israel! This will be Steve's first appearance in Israel, and he's excited to visit. As previously reported, Vai recently added another date to his upcoming Alien Guitar Secrets Master Class schedule for Italy, this time for Sardinia. On May 3rd he will be in Olbia, Sardinia at Auditorium Museo... This is a content summary only. Visit Truth In Shredding to find out more!
Darkcloud wrote a new blog post: Israel as a type of Jesus
2009-03-25 20:16:00 Darkcloud wrote a new blog post: Israel as a type of Jesus It is 1:27 PM Wednesday afternoon in the flow of existence. I took Rudy for a walk down by Window on the Water Front (which is a couple of blocks from downtown Holland). Holland is a great place for walkers and runners. Someday there will be a path from Holland all the way to Grand ... |
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