Family Adventures Family Adventures When my children are grown and gone, I hope that they will look back on their childhood and remember the sound of their mother's laughter. Sometimes that is easier said than done. 
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Please Send Sage
2008-01-23 15:20:00 Friday, we spent the day at a garage having our brakes fixed. They guy who works behind the desk was feverish and appeared to be dying from the flu. We tried to steer clear of his germs but not so sure.Saturday, we spent the day outside in the freezing cold wearing light weight sweatshirts and freezing our asses off. At the Marti Gras parade which was a blast but we should have checked the temperature. Who knew Mississippi could get cold? Sunday, Lily started to get a sore throat and cough. I blame the sick mechanic, Jeff blames us for allowing her to get so cold. Maybe it was both.Monday, I was entertaining Lily and she sneezed in my face. Full frontal snot attack, my face was soaked it went up my nose, in my eyes, in my mouth. I immediately felt a scratchy throat and headache. Probably psychosomatic. Tuesday, we skipped playgroup and instead I put Lily in the stroller and took her for a walk. My energizer bunny was not up to walking. Lily is such an active child it break... More About: Daily , Send , Sage
Much Ado About Money
2008-01-22 15:13:00 Jeff and I have already spent our tax money. We haven't filed or received our refund but the money is spent. We have decided to make extra house payments. I took the amount of money we pay each month to the bank, multiplied it by 12 (months) multiplied it by 30 (years) and found that we are going to pay the bank more than two times the amount we borrowed over the course of our 30 year loan.That interest is payed up front, meaning in the first few years of your home loan the majority of your monthly payment goes toward the interest and very little goes toward the principle. This is only true if you only pay your mortgage payment and no more. Any extra you pay goes toward the principle.The less you owe in principle the less you pay in interest. Every dollar I pay extra in principle the first few years of my mortgage is going to save me $1.40 in interest. If I pay $5000 from my tax refund toward my principle it will save me $7000 in Interest. That is $7000 I will not have to ... More About: Carnival , Money
Marti Gras
2008-01-20 14:28:00 We went to our first Marti Gras parade. It was much colder than we realized and we were not dressed appropriately. The wind was fierce too. You can see in the pictures that Jeff is trying to wrap his jacket around Lily for added warmth. Mardi Gras is a traditional celebration carried on since the middle ages. Many communities around the world, including Italy (they call it carnivale) New Orleans, and here. Have a huge party with a masked ball, parades, etc to celebrate Fat Tuesday, the day before lent begins. This year Marti Gras is on February 5.During the parade, each float has beads, and other treats which they will only throw to you if you are yelling and waving. Being the loudest family in Mississippi we got our fair share of booty. Now we have so many beads we have no idea what to do with them all and we still have of weeks of parades left to attend. I am afraid I didn't get a picture of us with all the beads at the end, I only remembered to take pictures at the be...
Another Bummer of a Day
2008-01-19 14:51:00 Yesterday was even worse than the day before... Six hours at the car repair place with Lily...Finally came home and dog had diarrhea all over the house. I cried. Felt better... Life goes on.I couldn't help but think of my friend Laura and her real problems. I told Mandy all about my day while I was driving her to work. We had a good laugh and that was that. So my day sucked but the car is fixed and life goes on.Lily and I feeling claustrophobic, bored, tired, hungry... at the site of the never ending brake job, we bonded. It was us against the world and we helped each other through it. I was so upset, they had told me an hour and a half and then just never finished, kept coming up with excuses. I am there with Lily with no way out, no way to leave, at their mercy...My head about exploded with anger, helplessness and frustration. Lily was feeling similarly upset. We were at first picking at each other but in the end we came together and got through the experience with some ... More About: Daily , Bummer
No Good Day Goes Unpunished
2008-01-18 13:45:00 Yesterday Lily (4) and I had such a lovely day at her library story time and then at the playground afterwards. You will remember I wrote about the fact that she has a problem with hitting. I wanted to point out that she does not have a problem with hitting other children. Even at the playground when she was hit and pushed by other children she handled it by telling them politely not to hit or push her. She has the mommy voice down pat. Her withering look and, "Honey, please do not push me. I do not like to be pushed. Pushing is not nice. OK? No more pushing." Made a little girl cry. But, they were soon friends again. I was so proud. She still hits me or herself whenever I say, "the wrong thing". But, she seems to be on the right track with her friends. Even though at home I pretend to be a monster attacking her and she pushes me down, I fall to the ground do a couple of somersaults and lay still beaten by the big strong and powerful, King Lily as she calls herself. ... More About: Daily , Good , No Good
A Katrina Update
2008-01-17 14:10:00 Long time readers will remember my husband, Jeff's best friend Chad. Chad has come down from Virginia to the Gulf Coast in order to volunteer his time and skills as a contractor to help rebuild homes destroyed by Katrina . He is also staying in our garage off and on. Mostly off, as he stays in Pearlington, MS where he does the majority of his work.Can you believe there are still people whose homes have not yet been fixed? Can you believe that there are still hundreds of people coming down here to help strangers. It totally amazes me.For many families the problem is that they are stuck in a no win situation. Crippled with house payments and insurance premiums on the home which was destroyed. Unable to stop making those payments or lose the hope of ever rebuilding or recouping their losses. So these people live in FEMA trailers that have some weird toxic gas that is making them all sick. When you are sick it is hard to move forward and get a lot done.The volunteers come here a... More About: Update
Rude Texting
2008-01-14 23:29:00 Not long ago I offered to drive a young lady and her two small children around town in order to buy a new car. She worked in Jeff's office (Air Force). Jeff was busy that day, I can't remember what he was doing. Her sponsor, a person assigned to help you out when you are reasigned to a new base, was also busy. I drove her around for more than two hours. The entire time she did not speak to me except to answer direct questions. Otherwise she was texting.I felt rather unapreciated. I believe in Karma and in the military we move a lot and depend on the kindness of others. It was my turn to be kind. Many have been kind to me. But, she didn't even have a polite conversation with me. I wonder what her mom would say. My husband is her boss's boss so perhaps she just didn't know what to say. Two hours sitting next to me in a car going from one used car lot to the next and she did not have a thing to say to me. She was very young, closer to Mandy's age (16) than mine (38).... More About: Daily , Parenting , Rude
Camping
2008-01-13 04:55:00 Jeff and Lily are sleeping in a tent in the backyard. I have just come inside from the campfire portion of the camping trip. The firewood I bought from the grocery store was wet. It took us several hours to get it really burning and by that time we were ready for bed. We were able to burn some marshmallows and make smores.I was a little leery of having a camp fire in the backyard. Instead of dirt we have sand underneath our grass. We live two blocks from the Gulf of Mexico. The previous owners of this house had an above ground pool. It was blown down by Katrina and grass has not been planted where the pool used to be. Therefore, we have a patch of sand smack dab in the middle of our backyard. Perfect for campfires.I really love camping in the backyard. Especially when we eat dinner in the house, and I get to sleep in my bed. Best camping trip ever!I follow comments. Leave a comment and I will come visit your blog. More About: Family , Daily , Camping
A Happy 3rd Anniversary Was Had By All
2008-01-12 20:04:00 Yesterday was the third anniversary of the my very first post on this blog. I think I have had just about as many template changes as I have posts. I am almost done with this one, but still have some more ideas, I want to try and figure out.I started this blog with a post called, Quality of Life where I tried to write about my thoughts having traveled all over the world. I am still trying to find a way to write about my thoughts. I think I have gained more wisdom than I have imparted to others.It was through the multiple attempts to make this blog pretty and unique that I discovered my love of web design/development. I tend to have more fun changing the colors than coming up with words. While I started with a lot to say, I still have tons more to say, the journey took me on a new path in my life. I was on a path to become a high school math teacher three years ago. I had a lovely little one year old Lily at home, a lovely thirteen year old Mandy who I was still taller than, and I wa... More About: Anniversary , Blogging , Happy
GIRLS RULE boys drool
2008-01-10 14:41:00 My husband listens to a stupid radio show every morning on his way to work. There are a bunch of rednecks who discuss current events and spew their hateful bigoted opinions onto the public. This is how my husband finds out about current events and forms opinions about politics. I cannot believe I am married to someone who is so different from me. He gets a kick out of repeating this crap to me at the dinner table and we end up having a fun little debate and I end up using a lot of bad language. He then reminds me not to use bad language in front of the kids. Better to hear some bad language than to hear the evil that comes out of his mouth.An example: Yesterday's topic was Jamie Lynn Spears, the 16 year old sister of Britney Spears who is pregnant. The boys on the radio reported that she was fired from her TV show due to her pregnancy, but after the show went up in ratings due to her pregnancy Nickelodeon decided to renew her contract and do another season of her show. The ... More About: Girls , Boys , Rule
Does rough housing cause hitting?
2008-01-08 15:17:00 I am trying to decide if we should eliminate rough housing from our daily diet until Lily gets over her current hitting phase. Looking for some input...We rough house quite a bit at our house. We always have. Perhaps it is our way of showing affection. Lily knows the proper way to wrestle and fight, the way where you don't really hurt anyone, you pretend. We pretend to beat each other to a pulp. No one is hurt during the beat down. Except that one time my arms were pinned to my side and I was pushed off the bed onto the ceramic tile floor and I sustained a really bad head ache. But, that was Jeff not Lily. And an accident or so I am told.The problem is that Lily is hitting while not wrestling. She has chosen this method of venting her anger and frustration at life in general. Lily gets frustrated a lot. Especially with me. For instance I tend to say, "shoes and socks". As in, "please put on your shoes and socks." Lily feels that since one puts on her socks first, the... More About: Family , Daily , Parenting , Housing
Is this about money?
2008-01-06 20:24:00 I have decided to take at least one semester off from school perhaps more. This has been a difficult decision. Getting a degree has been a life long desire and goal. Putting that on the back burner yet again is done with a bit of frustration. But, you can't always get what you want, or so the song goes.This last year we spent way too much money. This upcoming year we are trying to re-coop some of what went out last year. While I don't feel like we are the victims of the economy, it certainly isn't helping. Being a stay at home mom is very important to me for a variety of reasons. I have decided that being home for the family is more important to me than finishing my degree in a timely manner. I could just get a job. I could just get a student loan. But, that is not the course I have chosen. So here I am.It is my dream to become a web developer. This is the person who writes the code to make the beautifully designed websites come together and work. I have been readin... More About: Carnival , Money
kick 'em to the curb
2008-01-04 16:02:00 Last night I was very tired and wanted to go to bed as early as possible. Jeff felt the same. Lily chose to be extremely difficult to get into bed and I was even more exhausted by the time I finally got her down. I was just walking around the house doing those last minute before bed things...Mandy came out of her room crying, her friend had just been kicked out of her house by her mother and needed us to rush over and pick her up and bring her to our home. After a discussion with Jeff and Mandy we decided that we could only pick her up to spend the night at our house if I spoke to her mom and her mom said it was ok. I have only ever met this girl once and have never met her mom. Mandy says that, according to the friend, the mom is terribly mean, calling the friend all kinds of names and that they have been not getting along for a very long time.Back and forth went the phone calls, just when Mandy was about to hand me the telephone so I could speak to the mom, the friend tells ... More About: Daily , Kick
Perspective
2007-12-31 22:10:00 My favorite part of the holidays is the part between Christmas and New Years. I love that we are no longer busy. We have time to just be. After Christmas I spent an enormous amount of time playing with Lily. Her new favorite game is us going into her room and me pretending to be Lily and her pretending to be Mommy. She proceeds to tell me exactly what I can and cannot do. Mostly what I cannot do. She takes toys away from me and tells me to play with this other toy instead. She takes toys away from me and tells me how I should be playing with it. We do puzzles and she gives me the pieces I am allowed to put in the puzzle and tells me where exactly to put the piece. Oh my word. I cannot help but wonder if this is her perception of how I treat her? Of course it isn't the reality of how I treat her, but is it her perception? Maybe she is just a bossy little girl. Since then I have caught myself being bossy and I am taking a serious break from telling Lily exactly how to p... More About: Perspective
Much Ado about Money
2007-12-31 04:18:00 I am hosting a blog village carnival on January 28th called: Much Ado about Money Join us for another Family Blog Carnival - MUCH ADO about MONEY. Whether you earn it, spend it, save it, invest it, or even lose it, we all deal with money issues in our daily lives. Here's your chance to give your views on the economy, discuss ways of earning money while blogging, tell how you've gotten out of debt, or worse, how you've gotten into debt. Tell us about your business, or your dreams of a business. If your post relates to money, it's a perfect fit for this carnival. We look forward to reading what you have to say. -blogcarnival.comA blog carnival is an opportunity for a variety of bloggers to write about the same topic and then read each others posts. Whether you write a post or just read everyone else's post carnivals give us the opportunity to meet new bloggers. On January 28th I will write a post with a list of links to all the various posts on all the various blogs participatin...
9:51AM
2007-12-29 15:39:00 I stole this meme from Laura.What did you do in 2007 that you?d never done before?I moved to Mississippi, I had never been to Mississippi, who knew it would come to feel like home for me so easily.Did you keep your new year?s resolutions, and will you make more for next year?My resolutions are always the same: eat better, exercise more, be kinder...I never keep themDid anyone close to you give birth?No one in my real life. One of my very favorite bloggers Julia, has or is about to give birth to twins. After trying for many years and going through many losses. My heart is filled with so much joy for her and her family. And Sari surprised us all by telling us she was having a baby just days before she did.Did anyone close to you die?No, but I found out on Christmas day that my dear sweet Grandma has terminal cancerWhat countries did you visit?I started the year in Misawa, Japan. I still miss Japan sometimes, but not the snow. I really loved having a lovely 70 degree sunny Christ... More About: Meme
Braces
2007-12-27 18:00:00 Mandy needs an absolute ton of dental work. She is meticulous about her teeth and has never had a cavity. But, when she was 9 she fell off of her friend's bike and knocked out her two front teeth. Over the years she has had them put back in, had a root canal, had both extracted, had dozens of temporary replacement devices. One year the flipper broke during her birthday slumber party. One broke on safari in Kenya. They break at all the wrong times. In order to get her teeth fixed permanently we needed to wait for her to stop growing. She also needs to have braces. The loss of the two front teeth caused the bone on the top jaw to deteriorate and it is now much shorter than the bottom jaw. She has to have this repaired with braces. For the past seven years we were not living in America. Supposedly when you live overseas with the military you get free dental and orthodontics, however, the orthodontist gets to choose his patients, and he did not choose Mandy. We tried and t... More About: Braces
Lemons
2007-12-24 14:46:00 Do you need any lemons? We have 8 bags full. The stocking are hung by the chimney with care. In hopes that St. Nicholas soon will be there. The shopping is done, too much money has been spent. The gifts are all wrapped and waiting to be opened. The packages all mailed, even to the relatives who choose not to reciprocate. Cookies are baked and delivered to the neighbors. What is a family to do, while we wait for the big day? Why pick lemons of course... I hope you enjoy my professional videography. Chad is the one on the ladder, Jeff is the one holding the ladder, Lily is the one picking up the lemons, I am holding the camera. Merry Christmas to all, would you like a glass of lemonaide? Some lemoncello? Some lemon Gelato?I follow comments. Leave a comment and I will come visit your blog. More About: Lemons , Mons
Christmas Dinner Revised
2007-12-24 13:09:00 The Chili for Christmas dinner idea was nixed by the girls. We are having a more traditional ham. I am rebelling against the formal traditional Christmas sit down dinner by serving potato salad, green salad, and Jello salad with the ham.Our cat ran away several days ago. I am worried. I was having cat related nightmares, I couldn't sleep and got out of bed at 4AMI kept hearing the cat meow, or was it my imagination? The dog wouldn't come in the house, she kept going over the the fence. I looked around in the dark, no cat.I finally went out front, and looked on the other side of the fence, in the empty lot which is a forest, in the dark, this is where I found the cat. Could I have heard her, in my house with all the windows and doors shut, meowing in the lot next door?Can a cat speak to you in your dreams?She didn't lose any weight being gone for three days, I am thinking she has an alternate food source. Although, she is currently eating and purring at the same time.At lea... More About: Dinner
Christmas Dinner?
2007-12-21 16:15:00 What are you cooking for Christmas ? We have a tradition of having Chili. We open presents, eat a fabulous breakfast - eggs: with ham, cheese, onion, peppers, warm rolls, fruit. Then I make a big pot of chili and nibblies, and we just snack for the rest of the day.It all started when we were in Italy. We had a ton of great friends and all of us being away from family we started a tradition of inviting people over to play games. We would have an open house game day. Our friends would stop by for an hour or two, we would offer them chili and other snacks, play a few games etc. Here we don't have any friends to invite over. Here everyone has their family, their friends... But, we are still having chili and games. What is on your menu?I follow comments. Leave a comment and I will come visit your blog. More About: Dinner
Christmas Shopping
2007-12-19 15:15:00 Last Friday, Jeff had the day off from work and we went to do the Christmas shopping. I mean the shopping for all the out of town relatives. We have for the most part finished our shopping for the kids, each other, and Chad. All of our family lives far away and we both have good sized families. This year I decided to cut down the list from my side of the family. I am feeling a bit guilty, but I have two brothers, and they have kids etc. These lovely brothers have never sent me even a card, no gifts, no thank yous, no cards. We spend hundreds of dollars every year to give everyone in their family a gift, and mail it to them, wrap it etc. It is a lot of money and a lot of work and I am thinking that perhaps they would feel less guilty if I like them, just sent good wishes via prayers. Those two never even email or call me...So most of our list was Jeff's family although he has some members who are like my brothers, but it is his choice to send so we send. Jeff is not a scro... More About: Shopping , Daily , Christmas shopping
The Christmas Party
2007-12-17 15:44:00 Last week was the Christmas party for Jeff's office. I had to buy a present for Lily from Santa, I waited until the last moment due to all my other obligations and had a really hard time trying to buy something for her with her right there. She is so observant, I couldn't get away with anything. I also had to buy three white elephant gifts, for Jeff, Mandy and I. I also had to make a dessert, pick Mandy up from school, bla bla, bla, it was a very busy day, week, month...I chose to get Lily a watch for her present from Santa. Santa actually came to the party and called out the kid's names. It was sweet. Lily has been interested in what time it is and little else for over a month. She asks me about the time every 10 to 15 minutes all day long. She checks all the clocks in the house etc. I thought a cute little Dora the Explorer watch of her very own would be just the right present for her. I managed to get it in the shopping cart and paid for on the sly.When Lily opened ... More About: Party , Christmas party
Finished, yet hardly begun
2007-12-13 15:40:00 I finally finished my class. I took my final exam last night and now it is over. I have been so busy with so many things that I haven't really even started Christmas shopping. We are extraordinarily busy today. Jeff has tomorrow off from work, so I have decided that we are going to get up early, make lists and knock out all the shopping in one morning. We will wrap in the afternoon and get it all in the mail. It would be nice to have that done, I am hoping our marathon shopping day does the trick.I am really looking forward to doing Christmas crafts with Lily. I am thinking of stringing popcorn and cranberries, of making those paper chains, making some ornaments, and making some of those pine cone, peanut butter and bird seed things for the yard. Having a four year old at Christmas time rocks.We have been working hard to find ways for Lily to play with other children. I was not successful in finding her a pre-school, that we could afford in our area. They are all either ... More About: Nish
A Christmas Miracle
2007-12-11 03:49:00 First just let me say I have not slept in two day, but my final project is done. http://nova.umuc.edu/~ct386a03/index.html check it out if you are bored. It is not all that and a bag of chips, but I think it is pretty good.Every year Mandy and I used to go and see the Nutcracker Ballet. Every since Mandy was about 4 years old. We both love the ballet so very much. When I married Jeff and we moved out of the country we did not get the opportunity to see the Nutcracker, it has been 8 Christmas es. This year, due to poor planning on my part, we found out that this weekend was the absolute last chance to see the Nutcracker and Mandy's work schedule conflicted with all the showings. I was distraught, but it was probably for the best because I had so much work to do on my project - very big procrastinator am I.On the morning of the very last day of the Nutcracker, Sunday morning to be specific. I was up early coding away on my trusty computer. Mandy had to be at work at 8AM. Whi... More About: Miracle
Five Zero Zero
2007-12-08 14:20:00 This is most 500th post. In January I will have been blogging for three years. I enjoy blogging so much. It is my me time, sometimes the only me time I get. As I reflect back over the time I have spent blogging I think the most profound thing I have gained from this experience is the knowledge that I am a know it all and no one wants my advice. Believe it or not I was not aware of this fact pre-blog. While that is good to know, as you all know I still struggle with the telling people how to improve their life issue. My inner Dr. Phil is just aching to get out and tell you exactly how to fix your life. Not that my life is all that grand, I just have this urge...Have you ever read a blog and felt, wow, that same exact thing happened to me? Of all the blogs in the world, I must have come here for a reason and it is surely a sign that I tell this person how to fix her life. I have learned that we all struggle with the same crap, it isn't a sign. I need to listen and learn ins... More About: Blogging
Promises, Promises
2007-12-07 16:40:00 I am sorry to have not shown y'all how to make a marquee, it is pretty easy. Right now I am having a nervous breakdown, so you will have to excuse me. My final project is due Monday. All kinds of things keep getting in the way of me being able to accomplish any type of progress toward the completion of my project. I am trying to balance taking care of Lily with my school work. She just happens to be going through one of her more difficult phases. We also have a lot of invitations to Christmas type things. Since I have no friends and we don't get the chance to get out of the house and interact with people we actually know very often it is hard for me to say no. Yesterday for instance we spent the entire day out of the house. Today, Chad's parents are coming to stay with us for the weekend. We extended the invitation, come and stay with us anytime... We found out Wednesday afternoon, coming today. My house was not actually company ready. I was up all night, now my hous... More About: Promises
Confusing
2007-12-04 01:00:00 The more I think about this the more confused I become. -LuckzmomWow, that is deep. I couldn't have said it better myself. I sometimes have trouble expressing what I think, I know what I think, but explaining it, I cannot find the words. Sometimes when I discuss it with others I think, yes that is it, or no that isn't what I was thinking, but it helps me find my words.If we made a scale from one to ten, private to intimate. One being the loneliest number and representing a person who does not enjoy sharing themselves with others, someone who is very private, someone who does not especially like to be around other people. Ten being a person who holds nothing back, will tell perfect strangers at the grocery store the most embarrassing and humiliating details of their lives. Most people fall somewhere in between those two extremes. I know that when I was a child I was much closer to a one than I am now. I didn't trust anyone. In fact as a child, teen, even in my twenties, I... More About: Feminism
Little Bits of Separation
2007-12-02 16:15:00 When Lily was only a few months old I decided to go back and try to do this college thing again. Being a stay at home mom, this was my first time out of the house in months. I just loved the opportunity to be Marsha. Not Jeff's wife, not Mandy's mom, not Lily's mom - Marsha. We read and discussed a lot of interesting material. My professor was the best professor ever, he knew how to get a good argument going. Turns out that most of the time I disagreed with everyone in the class (I know you are all shocked). Still I had a great time debating all kinds of things. One of the other students was a Japanese national, she was not married and nearly 40. This is very uncommon in in the rural northern part of Japan where we lived. Living near the military base gave her the opportunity to have a job, on the American military base, and support herself. She asked me about marriage, she had noticed throughout the class that I am very outspoken and basically a hard core feminist. ... More About: Feminism , Separation , Bits
I did it
2007-11-30 22:56:00 Lily and I took a walk down to see the Gulf. I somehow stubbed my toe and pulled off the nail about half way, ouch. We came across a man who was fishing. He spoke in the exact accent that the guy on King of the Hill, who you cannot understand, uses. It cracked me up. I had no idea what he said. Instead of saying, what? I asked him if he had seen seen the alligator. He said he hadn't seen her today, but that he say her earlier in the week. Then he started going off in that accent I cannot understand. I just kept walking. I wonder what he said? He wasn't cute like the guy on King of the Hill, he was old and had a dirty shirt, with his big belly sticking out. I think he was the first back water good ole boy I have met since moving to Mississippi, he seemed nice.I follow comments. Leave a comment and I will come visit your blog.
Pompeii
More articles from this author:2007-11-29 18:00:00 In January 2002, shortly after my first miscariage, Jeff decided what we really needed was a trip. He picked Pompei as our destination. We rode the trains from where we lived in Pordenone to Pomepei. Picture northeast corner of Italy to mid to lower west coast of Italy. This train trip took us through Rome, the only time in my two years living in Italy that I saw Rome, was out the train window. I guess our time in Italy was spent taking the road less traveled. We kept putting off Rome and then we were gone.Pompeii was completely destroyed in the year 79, by a volcanic erruption of the nearby Mount Vesuvius. The entire city of Pompeii has been escavated and you can go there and see an entire Roman city. There is so much detail. It is not a couple of buildings but blocks and blocks of buildings, an entire city. There is so much detail, the paintings on the walls inside the homes and shops. The address outside each house along the street. Sidewalks, billboards, two arenas, f... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
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